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« Reply #1350 on: October 20, 2019, 11:26:10 pm »

The youngest MPs will be 24 (1x NEOS, 1x ÖVP).

The oldest - and this is the most interesting part - is just 65.

Which means that among 183 members of parliament, nobody will be older than 65.

Compare that with the US for example, which has a young society but mostly old people (65+) in Congress and running for President.

The Greens have a migrant share of 25% among their MPs, which is funny because among 26 people that would be 6.5 people.

I'm only counting 6:

* Meri Disoski (Macedonian origin)
* Faika El-Nagashi (Egyptian/Hungarian)
* Ewa Ernst-Dziedzic (Poland)
* Bedrana Ribo (Bosnia)
* Alma Zadic (Bosnia)
* Süleyman Zorba (Turkey)

The SPÖ has 2/40 with a migrant background: 2 women (Turkey)

NEOS has 1/15: Korean-Indian

The FPÖ has nobody with a migrant background and there's no info for the ÖVP MPs (but looking at their names, I guess none).


Do you know why no other nationalities are represented? Most seem to be Bosniak/Turkish/Albanian.

Not that I mind, just asking why they are not pursuing a representative number according to the population (like 50% of MPs being women).

This is mostly a right-wing problem, as you can see from my numbers. The ÖVP usually has a few, the FPÖ basically never.

I guess the FPÖ doesn’t want representatives with a migrant background, unless they have a German or Serb background.

Among Austrian citizens, ca. 10% have a migrant background. +16% actual foreigners in the country who cannot vote.

So if we just take into account the citizens with a migrant background, then the Greens have above average shares, while SPÖ and NEOS are largely around the average.

The reason why most MPs with a migrant background are Turks, Balkan folks or Eastern Europeans is very obvious.

I guess you're right. In terms of numbers Turks and Serbs share 2nd spot after Germans, but probably since Muslims usually align more with parties who are in favour of open-door policies they are more represented within them.

As far as I know, the FPÖ doesn't really even have any Germans or Serbs in their ranks, they are still pretty Vanilla, although it will be interesting to see Stache's picks if he decides to form his own Party/List.

Interesting times are ahead, for better or worse I guess.

As for Germans in the FPÖ, I don't know, because they are name-wise very similar to Austrians. One would have to look up the biographies and screen if they were born in Germany or to German parents.

As for Serbs, the FPÖ had 2 on their EU list in May.

Vesna Schuster and Konstantin Dobrilović.

Schuster would actually have been elected to the EU parliament if the FPÖ got a 4th seat.
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« Reply #1351 on: October 21, 2019, 12:19:47 pm »

Philippa Strache still has not decided if she will take her seat in the National Council when it convenes on Wednesday.

Previously, I thought she would have to make up her mind until the inaugural session starts, but the ORF reports that there is actually nothing in the law that says so.

She could also skip the session and be sworn in during a following session ...

https://orf.at/#/stories/3141579/

Meanwhile, the SPÖ is a total clusterf**k with ongoing internal intrigues like before the election.

https://orf.at/#/stories/3141610/
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« Reply #1352 on: October 21, 2019, 12:25:19 pm »

Meanwhile, the SPÖ is a total clusterf**k with ongoing internal intrigues like before the election.

Being in a total clusterf**k over internal intrigues is pretty common for European social democratic parties, amrite?
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« Reply #1353 on: October 21, 2019, 12:35:49 pm »

Meanwhile, the SPÖ is a total clusterf**k with ongoing internal intrigues like before the election.

Being in a total clusterf**k over internal intrigues is pretty common for European social democratic parties, amrite?

Not sure about other countries, but the image the SPÖ has displayed to voters over the past week has been very troubling, if not worse than what the FPÖ is producing right now with the Strache Facebook shutdown and Philippa's seat.

If voters get the impression that the SPÖ is out-of-control, how should they put them "in control" ?

In the latest case, someone from within the SPÖ leaked to the media a consulting contract for Max Lercher, their former general secretary from Styria (state elections next month !) for which he or his company gets paid 20.000€ per month. Also, representatives of the SPÖ, the party for the small working man and woman, are driving around in 100k € Porsches and wear Rolex watches worth a couple thousand € ...

Who still needs enemies, when you have a leaking mole in your party ? Tongue
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« Reply #1354 on: October 21, 2019, 11:29:05 pm »

Kurz (ÖVP) and Kogler (Greens) talked for 5 hours in private yesterday evening.

They agreed for all-day negotiations on Friday with their delegations, but said that the exploration rounds will take another few weeks, considering ÖVP and Greens are miles apart on several issues and the Greens are new in parliament and need time to accustom themselves to parliamentary work.
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« Reply #1355 on: October 21, 2019, 11:38:02 pm »

Styrian SPÖ-leader Michael Schickhofer will step down if the party falls below 21% in the state election next month.

That would be a loss of more than 8% compared with 2015.

https://orf.at/stories/3141635
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« Reply #1356 on: October 22, 2019, 11:09:43 am »

Philippa Strache will take her seat tomorrow and will instantly become an Independent, sitting behind the SPÖ.

Also, the Greens will field a candidate for 3rd (= deputy) Parliamentary Speaker tomorrow (Eva Blimlinger) to oppose Norbert Hofer (FPÖ).

This is interesting, because usually the 3rd-placed party (= FPÖ) has the right to have the 3rd deputy Speaker.

Will be interesting to see how the ÖVP votes here ... (but I'm pretty sure they will vote for Hofer).

https://orf.at/stories/3141747
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« Reply #1357 on: October 22, 2019, 11:26:40 am »

Meanwhile, the SPÖ is a total clusterf**k with ongoing internal intrigues like before the election.

Being in a total clusterf**k over internal intrigues is pretty common for European social democratic parties, amrite?

Not sure about other countries, but the image the SPÖ has displayed to voters over the past week has been very troubling, if not worse than what the FPÖ is producing right now with the Strache Facebook shutdown and Philippa's seat.

Labour or Parti Socialiste are particularly notorious for internal infighting and factionalism.
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« Reply #1358 on: October 22, 2019, 03:07:51 pm »

New Market poll for the Standard:

38% ÖVP
20% SPÖ
16% FPÖ
15% Greens
  9% NEOS
  2% Others

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110115743/klare-mehrheit-wuenscht-gruene-in-der-regierung-und-sagt-fpoe

+ Austrian voters are warming about the prospect of having the Greens (and NEOS) in the next government.
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« Reply #1359 on: October 22, 2019, 04:43:49 pm »

Meanwhile, the SPÖ is a total clusterf**k with ongoing internal intrigues like before the election.

Being in a total clusterf**k over internal intrigues is pretty common for European social democratic parties, amrite?

Not sure about other countries, but the image the SPÖ has displayed to voters over the past week has been very troubling, if not worse than what the FPÖ is producing right now with the Strache Facebook shutdown and Philippa's seat.

Labour or Parti Socialiste are particularly notorious for internal infighting and factionalism.

I wonder if that's a consequence of non PR voting - less ideological sorting means broader tents (amongst voters, cadre and elected officials alike) that are trickier to being together. Like as far as I know, there are no Corbyn style backbencers in the SPD lists?
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« Reply #1360 on: October 22, 2019, 07:43:36 pm »

I wonder if that's a consequence of non PR voting - less ideological sorting means broader tents (amongst voters, cadre and elected officials alike) that are trickier to being together. Like as far as I know, there are no Corbyn style backbencers in the SPD lists?

Yes, although it also has to do with how the nomination process tends to work with PR List elections. Here party lists are defacto under control of the State/National Party Leadership which ensures that most Parliamentarians are very loyalist.
The most radical rebellious backbenchers in Germany tend to come from Constituencies where the nominations are less centralised. Hans-Christian Ströbele who was elected this way, despite the Green Party Leadership desperately trying to block him.
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« Reply #1361 on: October 22, 2019, 11:19:28 pm »



Opinion of Greta Thunberg:

51% Positive
36% Negative
  9% Undecided
  4% Don't know her (she has a bigger name ID than major Austrian politicians)
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« Reply #1362 on: October 23, 2019, 11:29:36 am »

The new parliament has been sworn in today (183 members) incl. Philippa Strache, who left parliament again a few minutes later. She was also officially thrown out of the FPÖ in the afternoon, with her party membership being cancelled.

Sobotka, Bures and Hofer were all re-elected Speaker and deputies with more than 70% each.


Source: APA

Pictures of the opening session:

https://www.parlament.gv.at/SERV/FOTO/VER/889115/index.shtml

Evolution of the women share in parliament (this will change once the government takes office, because government members cannot be MPs):


Source: APA
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« Reply #1363 on: October 23, 2019, 03:42:57 pm »

A new study by Apollis for a South Tyrolian Sociology think-tank shows that Austro-Italian dual-citizenship is seen quite critical among South Tyrolians:

https://www.diepresse.com/5711079/die-mehrheit-der-sudtiroler-will-keinen-osterreichischen-pass

The interesting thing is that Italian-speaking South Tyrolians are not a lot more critical than German-speaking ones (62% say it's a bad idea), even though opposition is a bit higher (71% say it's a bad idea).

When it comes to actually thinking about getting Austrian citizenship, 13% of German-speaking South Tyrolians would "definitely" apply for it, 23% "maybe" and 58% would not.
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« Reply #1364 on: October 24, 2019, 12:22:35 pm »

NEOS, like the FPÖ & SPÖ before, has pulled out of further exploration talks with the ÖVP today, after their meeting with Kurz and his delegation.

NEOS argues that another round of exploration talks are unnecessary, because Kurz already knows all their positions and they only want official coalition talks now (like the SPÖ).

Kurz said he understands their demands, but will „focus strongly“ on the Greens now. ÖVP-Greens will hold exploration talks all day long tomorrow.

https://kurier.at/politik/inland/sondierungen-neos-will-sich-nicht-monatelang-hinhalten-lassen/400656254
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« Reply #1365 on: October 24, 2019, 01:48:09 pm »

H.C. Strache called the FPÖ misogynistic today:

https://kurier.at/politik/inland/wegen-philippa-strache-wirft-fpoe-frauenfeindlichkeit-vor/400656824

He blamed them for terminating the party membership of his wife Philippa and for kicking her out of their parliamentary group and he blamed the party for a "record-low" share of female MPs.

LOL. As if the share of women was higher when he was still party leader.
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« Reply #1366 on: October 24, 2019, 02:10:49 pm »

Pictures of the new MPs, by party:

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SPÖ



FPÖ



Greens



NEOS



Source: party websites or their Twitter sites
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« Reply #1367 on: October 25, 2019, 11:10:26 am »

Kurz will end the exploration talks with the Greens on November 8 and announce „a few days later“ his official choice for coalition talks.

In the next 2 weeks, ÖVP-Greens have scheduled another 4 all-day meetings.

Unofficially, those meetings are still called „exploration talks“, but de-facto they are already coalition talks (even if nobody from both sides wants to confirm it).

The media is reporting that issue blocks are already being debated and equalized between the 2 parties for common ground, with finances/budget/immigration talks planned for next week and social topics + environment during the first November week.

https://orf.at/stories/3142102
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« Reply #1368 on: October 25, 2019, 11:49:14 am »

New Ö24 poll:

SPÖ drops below 20% for the first time in their 130-year history.

https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/SPOe-faellt-erstmals-in-ihrer-Geschichte-unter-20/403303234

No surprise considering their embarrassing behaviour during the past weeks.

PS: a Strache-Party would only get 3% in a federal election, with the FPÖ relatively unchanged at 14% (-1%), while the ÖVP would also lose 1%.
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« Reply #1369 on: October 25, 2019, 12:13:10 pm »

The „Kurier“ reports that Strache wants to create his own party, called F.P.Ö.

https://kuriermitschlag.at/schlag-zeilen/strache-gruendet-fpoe-die-frauen-partei-oesterreichs/400657718

Frauen Partei Österreichs (Women’s Party of Austria)
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« Reply #1370 on: October 25, 2019, 12:23:40 pm »

Bloomberg:

Austria’s Kurz Plans to Start Formal Government Talks Next Month

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Austrian conservative leader Sebastian Kurz will continue exploratory talks with the environmentalist Greens until Nov. 8 and then decide whether the conversation can graduate to formal and exclusive government negotiations.


Source: ÖVP

The Greens, led by Werner Kogler, are now the group with which Kurz engaged the most in the four weeks since the election those two parties won. Despite vast policy differences, overall voters’ support has switched to this coalition as the preferred one. Yet Kurz has resisted limiting himself to a single option.

“The parties are very far apart in terms of policy, so you have to ask yourself how a new form of governing can work between them,” Kurz told reporters in Vienna. “If this can be resolved positively, government talks with the Greens are possible,” he said, adding that both sides are interacting “constructively and professionally.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-25/austria-s-kurz-plans-to-start-formal-government-talks-next-month
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« Reply #1371 on: October 25, 2019, 12:30:55 pm »

The „Kurier“ reports that Strache wants to create his own party, called F.P.Ö.

https://kuriermitschlag.at/schlag-zeilen/strache-gruendet-fpoe-die-frauen-partei-oesterreichs/400657718

Frauen Partei Österreichs (Women’s Party of Austria)

A man leading a "women's party" won't be the most absurd thing in Austrian politics.
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« Reply #1372 on: October 25, 2019, 12:43:44 pm »

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« Reply #1373 on: October 26, 2019, 01:12:19 am »

The „Kurier“ reports that Strache wants to create his own party, called F.P.Ö.

https://kuriermitschlag.at/schlag-zeilen/strache-gruendet-fpoe-die-frauen-partei-oesterreichs/400657718

Frauen Partei Österreichs (Women’s Party of Austria)
Is this some kind of joke or?
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« Reply #1374 on: October 26, 2019, 05:49:48 am »

The „Kurier“ reports that Strache wants to create his own party, called F.P.Ö.

https://kuriermitschlag.at/schlag-zeilen/strache-gruendet-fpoe-die-frauen-partei-oesterreichs/400657718

Frauen Partei Österreichs (Women’s Party of Austria)
Is this some kind of joke or?

It's satire.
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