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Question: Who would you vote for in the Sept. 29 federal election ?
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ÖVP
 
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SPÖ
 
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FPÖ
 
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NEOS
 
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NOW
 
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Greens
 
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KPÖ
 
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Change
 
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A regional party
 
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Invalid/Blank
 
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I wouldn't vote
 
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« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2019, 12:59:34 PM »

  Tender, I wonder where other eastern Europeans would fit in the poll, like Czechs, Hungarians and Poles. Probably in the high single digits?

I would assume so. They are seen roughly as former Yugoslavs (11%).
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« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2019, 01:00:53 PM »

VIENNA, April 3 (Reuters) - Austria has increased the size of its planned tax targeting tech companies, to 5 percent of their advertising revenue in the country, from 3 percent previously, Finance Minister Hartwig Loeger said in an interview with ORF radio on Wednesday.

The planned levy, which starts next year, is part of a package of measures targeting large tech companies including Google, Amazon and Facebook, which Austria’s right-wing government accuses of not paying their fair share in taxes.

The planned measures also include lowering the threshold for value-added tax to apply to packages entering the country, as previously announced. Loeger told ORF the various measures were expected to raise more than 200 million euros ($224.44 million) a year.

https://www.reuters.com/article/austria-economy-digital-tax/austria-increasing-size-of-planned-digital-tax-finance-minister-says-idUSV9N1YO002

Good.

Internet companies need to pay their fair share of taxes.
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« Reply #127 on: April 03, 2019, 11:29:41 PM »

Very good results for the Faction of Socialist Unionists (FSG) in the Austrian union employee elections:

https://kurier.at/chronik/niederoesterreich/fsg-baut-absolute-mehrheit-in-aknoe-aus/400456069

The states of Vorarlberg, Tyrol and Salzburg have already voted a few weeks ago and now another 5 states have released their results and the FSG maintained their 60-75% majorities and even gained ground in some states, such as Upper Austria, Lower Austria and Vienna.
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« Reply #128 on: April 04, 2019, 12:30:31 PM »

The Identitarian problem continued today for ÖVP-FPÖ (only for the FPÖ of course):

https://kurier.at/politik/inland/nach-telefonat-kurz-kunasek-erneut-sperre-im-heer-fuer-identitaere/400456702

The "Standard" newspaper uncovered recently that the Austrian Army under the FPÖ Defense Minister Kunasek has stopped blacklisting and therefore banning far-right people from joining the army, as was the case for decades - so that these people do not infiltrate the army and get weapons training for free.

Chancellor Kurz and President Van der Bellen then called Kunasek today and lectured him that extremism has no place in the Army, which he then also told the media and also announced that the ban has been put into effect again.

All of this is also campaign tactics for the upcoming EU elections of course: Kurz is sounding like the tough Chancellor guy who wants to show the voters who's boss and who's not. Experts think that this will help the ÖVP in the elections, while the FPÖ will fall back in the polls.
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« Reply #129 on: April 04, 2019, 01:12:13 PM »

If I were an Austrian I'd be very unhappy with the ongoing ÖVP bullying of the FPÖ. Does Kurz want to return to governing with the SPÖ and get electorally demolished for pushing the same old leftist line on immigration and integration? At this point Strache should threaten to pull the plug if the ÖVP continue to do this.
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« Reply #130 on: April 04, 2019, 01:18:07 PM »

If I were an Austrian I'd be very unhappy with the ongoing ÖVP bullying of the FPÖ. Does Kurz want to return to governing with the SPÖ and get electorally demolished for pushing the same old leftist line on immigration and integration? At this point Strache should threaten to pull the plug if the ÖVP continue to do this.

I don't see a problem if the FPÖ cuts their ties with the most extreme fringes of society, as long as they are in government.

Why do you think the ÖVP is "bullying" them ? It's just that Kurz wants them to be within the legal framework, so that they can continue to govern without any harm domestically and abroad.

It's better for both of them. The FPÖ will continue to poll above 20% anyway as an anti-establishment party, even if they get rid of their Nazi elements within.
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« Reply #131 on: April 04, 2019, 01:31:45 PM »

Tomorrow we should get a new Research Affairs poll, which could show first effects of the Identitarian/Tarrant fallout for the FPÖ ...

Research Affairs tends to be a bit biased anyway in favour of the FPÖ (but not by a lot), so if the FPÖ is at 24-25% tomorrow, everything is fine, 22-23% would be a modest loss because of the issue and everything below 22% would be a major drop.

In general, FPÖ-voters don't give much of a damn about these Identitarian things and the base has become die-hard over the past years, so I don't expect the polls to change a lot.
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« Reply #132 on: April 04, 2019, 11:09:43 PM »

Here are the results of the new Research Affairs poll and it shows the FPÖ already dropping:



https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/politik/Umfrage-Identitaere-schaden-der-FPOe/374872829

Poll was conducted March 28-April 3, so it does not capture the full fallout for the FPÖ yet. I think they will go down to 20% in other new polls soon.

Just today, it emerged that Identitarian movement leader Martin Sellner put swastika stickers on a synagogue in 2006 as a 17-year old, for which he had to perform 100 hours of community service at a Jewish cemetary. Sellner said he was a neo-Nazi back then, but has "changed a lot" since then.



https://www.kleinezeitung.at/politik/innenpolitik/5607530/Identitaere_Martin-Sellner-klebte-Hakenkreuze-auf-Synagoge
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« Reply #133 on: April 04, 2019, 11:19:33 PM »

Austria far-right activist condemned over swastika



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Austria's chancellor has described as "disgusting" revelations that a far-right activist linked to the New Zealand mosque attacks suspect put a swastika on a synagogue when he was 17. Chancellor Sebastian Kurz said he would not tolerate "neo-Nazi activities". Martin Sellner of the Identitarian Movement Austria said the incident had been long ago and he had since changed. Last month investigators raided his home after he said he had been given money by the Christchurch suspect. But Mr Sellner, 30, denied any involvement in the New Zealand attacks. Fifty people died and dozens more wounded in the 15 March shootings. Australian Brenton Tarrant, a 28-year-old self-proclaimed white supremacist, has been charged over the attacks. Mr Kurz - who campaigned on a harsh anti-immigrant message and is governing in coalition with the far-right Freedom Party - said that as chancellor it was his duty to "fight all forms of extremism to preserve free and liberal law-based state". It follows a report in Austria's Kleine Zeitung that Mr Sellner had admitted to police in 2006 that he and a companion stuck a swastika poster on a synagogue in the town of Baden bei Wien, to the south-west of the capital Vienna. The newspaper quoted Mr Sellner's companion as saying the pair had decided to carry out the act after British Holocaust denier David Irving was arrested in Austria in 2005 and jailed. Denying the Holocaust is illegal in Austria. Mr Sellner had also provided a badge saying "aryan youth" and an anti-Turkish poster, his companion said at the time. Mr Sellner appeared regretful and was told to carry out 100 hours of community service in a Jewish cemetery, the newspaper report said. Responding to the report on Twitter, Mr Sellner said it was no secret that he had been active in the neo-Nazi scene when he was younger but had "left that behind a long time ago". He had never taken part in acts of violence, he added. Mr Sellner has become one of the most prominent young activists of the far right in Europe. Austrian media say the far-right Freedom Party has come under pressure to distance itself from the Identitarian Movement Austria (IBÖ) following the revelations that Brenton Tarrant donated about €1,500 (£1,290; $1,700) to the IBÖ.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47822454

David, you cannot defend this. The FPÖ needs to cut all ties with these people to remain a "responsible" coalition party. Kurz is right here to demand a red line and zero tolerance.
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« Reply #134 on: April 06, 2019, 12:20:24 PM »

The FPÖ failed yesterday with a lawsuit against Austria (!), when a judge threw out their case for a 4 million € compensation for the 2016 presidential election runoff, which had to be repeated (... mostly, because the FPÖ didn't accept the close results).

Austrian voters found that lawsuit highly absurd, as a new ATV poll showed, with voters being opposed to a refund for the FPÖ by a 60-19 margin.

https://kurier.at/politik/inland/bp-wahl-2016-kein-anspruch-auf-schadenersatz-fuer-die-fpoe/400458106

The FPÖ and Strache also wanted to put to rest the Identitarian controversy today at the Upper Austria state convention, when Strache said that "A red line has been drawn by us with regards to the Identitarians, all ties with them have been cut, we don't want extremists in our party, or any connections with Martin Sellner, that the Left tries to construct something against the party by linking them to a crazy NZ mass murderer and that he will defend his party like a father would against all attacks."

Chancellor Kurz applauded Strache's remarks today at the FPÖ convention.



BTW:

Manfred Haimbuchner, the Upper Austrian FPÖ-leader and most likely successor to Strache, was re-elected with more than 97% of the delegate votes.

https://orf.at/stories/3117858
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« Reply #135 on: April 09, 2019, 01:18:28 PM »

UK, Dutch intelligence limit Austria data flow over Russian ties:MP
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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

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Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.
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« Reply #136 on: April 09, 2019, 11:09:34 PM »

UK, Dutch intelligence limit Austria data flow over Russian ties:MP
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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

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Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
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« Reply #137 on: April 10, 2019, 10:15:24 AM »

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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

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Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
The important bits are the stuff they don’t want to give to the Russians. It simple really, either get woke or get cast in the dark, NATO isn’t budging to put itself in risk just because you democratically voted in fifth-columnists.
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« Reply #138 on: April 10, 2019, 10:23:59 AM »

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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

...

Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
The important bits are the stuff they don’t want to give to the Russians. It simple really, either get woke or get cast in the dark, NATO isn’t budging to put itself in risk just because you democratically voted in fifth-columnists.

That’s why the easiest solution for this would be to report the Russia-related stuff only to Chancellor Kurz and the remaining stuff to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry ...
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« Reply #139 on: April 10, 2019, 10:35:04 AM »

UK, Dutch intelligence limit Austria data flow over Russian ties:MP
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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

...

Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
The important bits are the stuff they don’t want to give to the Russians. It simple really, either get woke or get cast in the dark, NATO isn’t budging to put itself in risk just because you democratically voted in fifth-columnists.

That’s why the easiest solution for this would be to report the Russia-related stuff only to Chancellor Kurz and the remaining stuff to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry ...
And if some of that info runs tangentially to Russian stuff? For all purposes, leaving Austria in the dark is a good move so as to not have a leaky foundation.
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« Reply #140 on: April 10, 2019, 10:44:29 AM »

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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

...

Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
The important bits are the stuff they don’t want to give to the Russians. It simple really, either get woke or get cast in the dark, NATO isn’t budging to put itself in risk just because you democratically voted in fifth-columnists.

That’s why the easiest solution for this would be to report the Russia-related stuff only to Chancellor Kurz and the remaining stuff to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry ...
And if some of that info runs tangentially to Russian stuff? For all purposes, leaving Austria in the dark is a good move so as to not have a leaky foundation.

In this case, the BVT needs to be put under the supervision of the Chancellery, instead of the Interior Ministry. Problem: the FPÖ would not vote for it unless Kurz threatens to blow up the coalition.

Either that, or Kurz should receive the full data load from abroad. Leaving Austria in the dark about the Russians is not cool.
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« Reply #141 on: April 10, 2019, 11:07:46 AM »

UK, Dutch intelligence limit Austria data flow over Russian ties:MP
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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

...

Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
The important bits are the stuff they don’t want to give to the Russians. It simple really, either get woke or get cast in the dark, NATO isn’t budging to put itself in risk just because you democratically voted in fifth-columnists.

That’s why the easiest solution for this would be to report the Russia-related stuff only to Chancellor Kurz and the remaining stuff to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry ...
And if some of that info runs tangentially to Russian stuff? For all purposes, leaving Austria in the dark is a good move so as to not have a leaky foundation.

In this case, the BVT needs to be put under the supervision of the Chancellery, instead of the Interior Ministry. Problem: the FPÖ would not vote for it unless Kurz threatens to blow up the coalition.

Either that, or Kurz should receive the full data load from abroad. Leaving Austria in the dark about the Russians is not cool.
Well then isolate them, then. Or else wait till the next election and form a new coalition government with SPÖ or Neös or something.

It’s been clear that FPÖ is a security risk, from the inside link by Neonazis and their strong ties, almost allegiance to Russia. Or risk being in the dark for quite some time.
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« Reply #142 on: April 10, 2019, 02:55:34 PM »
« Edited: April 10, 2019, 02:59:51 PM by Omega21 »

UK, Dutch intelligence limit Austria data flow over Russian ties:MP
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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

...

Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
The important bits are the stuff they don’t want to give to the Russians. It simple really, either get woke or get cast in the dark, NATO isn’t budging to put itself in risk just because you democratically voted in fifth-columnists.

That’s why the easiest solution for this would be to report the Russia-related stuff only to Chancellor Kurz and the remaining stuff to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry ...
And if some of that info runs tangentially to Russian stuff? For all purposes, leaving Austria in the dark is a good move so as to not have a leaky foundation.

In this case, the BVT needs to be put under the supervision of the Chancellery, instead of the Interior Ministry. Problem: the FPÖ would not vote for it unless Kurz threatens to blow up the coalition.

Either that, or Kurz should receive the full data load from abroad. Leaving Austria in the dark about the Russians is not cool.
Well then isolate them, then. Or else wait till the next election and form a new coalition government with SPÖ or Neös or something.

It’s been clear that FPÖ is a security risk, from the inside link by Neonazis and their strong ties, almost allegiance to Russia. Or risk being in the dark for quite some time.

Austria is arguably now safer as it is not importing new threats DUE to the FPÖ.

Your loving SPÖ imported the threats in the first place, and you cannot factually dispute that. Smiley

Plus, American paranoia makes me cringe. In a lot of things, the US and Russia are no different, although the US offers vastly more freedom to its citizens. You both reject the International court and you both overthrow/prop-up regimes (Saudi Arabia, Panama, Iran), so please stop acting like you are the definition of justice and honour.
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« Reply #143 on: April 10, 2019, 05:57:34 PM »

UK, Dutch intelligence limit Austria data flow over Russian ties:MP
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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

...

Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
The important bits are the stuff they don’t want to give to the Russians. It simple really, either get woke or get cast in the dark, NATO isn’t budging to put itself in risk just because you democratically voted in fifth-columnists.

That’s why the easiest solution for this would be to report the Russia-related stuff only to Chancellor Kurz and the remaining stuff to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry ...
And if some of that info runs tangentially to Russian stuff? For all purposes, leaving Austria in the dark is a good move so as to not have a leaky foundation.

In this case, the BVT needs to be put under the supervision of the Chancellery, instead of the Interior Ministry. Problem: the FPÖ would not vote for it unless Kurz threatens to blow up the coalition.

Either that, or Kurz should receive the full data load from abroad. Leaving Austria in the dark about the Russians is not cool.
Well then isolate them, then. Or else wait till the next election and form a new coalition government with SPÖ or Neös or something.

It’s been clear that FPÖ is a security risk, from the inside link by Neonazis and their strong ties, almost allegiance to Russia. Or risk being in the dark for quite some time.

Austria is arguably now safer as it is not importing new threats DUE to the FPÖ.

Your loving SPÖ imported the threats in the first place, and you cannot factually dispute that. Smiley

Plus, American paranoia makes me cringe. In a lot of things, the US and Russia are no different, although the US offers vastly more freedom to its citizens. You both reject the International court and you both overthrow/prop-up regimes (Saudi Arabia, Panama, Iran), so please stop acting like you are the definition of justice and honour.
While I don’t hide that I detest the FPÖ, I wasn’t trying to cover for the United States. I was merely pointing out that Austria will be separated and isolated from the rest of the NATO coalition until the security issue with FPÖ is resolved. How you can get that from me, a person who screetches about US interventionist attitudes nonstop, is a mystery.

I’m not going to debate you on Immigration in Austria, as I can tell that you won’t budge from your absolutism nor do I have the ability to spam evidence appropriately enough for the onlookers, after all I can’t read German. Nor will I get off-topic on the discussion at hand, that Austria is a security concern for NATO due to having leaks in the government due to elements having Russian alignment. So debate me on that. What do you think about the current shunning of Austria by other intelligence partners? Do you prefer to break from NATO? Is being in the Russian sphere optimal for your envisioned future for Austrian society?
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« Reply #144 on: April 10, 2019, 08:50:21 PM »

UK, Dutch intelligence limit Austria data flow over Russian ties:MP
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British and Dutch spy agencies have heavily restricted the amount of intelligence they share with Austria, mainly because of ties between the ruling far-right Freedom Party and Russia, an Austrian opposition lawmaker said on Tuesday.

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Kurz has said he plans to make the BVT report to him and FPO Vice Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache although it would still remain part of the Interior Ministry.

The BVT is not currently taking part in working groups of the Club of Bern, a network of European intelligence agencies, because of concerns among members about a club memo that was leaked to an Austrian newspaper, the head of the BVT said last week. He added, however, that Austria remains a member.

Yeah.

But it would be better if foreign intelligence groups would still warn us if for example they have knowledge of a coming terror attack in Austria. Otherwise it would look kinda bad on their part ...

Plus: we already knew in 2017 that they would limit their flow to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry because of their pro-Russia ties. Nothing new really. They should just report to Kurz instead (not even Strache, Kurz can tell Strache the important parts) and the case is solved. The FPÖ needs to be sidelined here.
The important bits are the stuff they don’t want to give to the Russians. It simple really, either get woke or get cast in the dark, NATO isn’t budging to put itself in risk just because you democratically voted in fifth-columnists.

That’s why the easiest solution for this would be to report the Russia-related stuff only to Chancellor Kurz and the remaining stuff to the FPÖ-led Interior Ministry ...
And if some of that info runs tangentially to Russian stuff? For all purposes, leaving Austria in the dark is a good move so as to not have a leaky foundation.

In this case, the BVT needs to be put under the supervision of the Chancellery, instead of the Interior Ministry. Problem: the FPÖ would not vote for it unless Kurz threatens to blow up the coalition.

Either that, or Kurz should receive the full data load from abroad. Leaving Austria in the dark about the Russians is not cool.
Well then isolate them, then. Or else wait till the next election and form a new coalition government with SPÖ or Neös or something.

It’s been clear that FPÖ is a security risk, from the inside link by Neonazis and their strong ties, almost allegiance to Russia. Or risk being in the dark for quite some time.

Austria is arguably now safer as it is not importing new threats DUE to the FPÖ.

Your loving SPÖ imported the threats in the first place, and you cannot factually dispute that. Smiley

Plus, American paranoia makes me cringe. In a lot of things, the US and Russia are no different, although the US offers vastly more freedom to its citizens. You both reject the International court and you both overthrow/prop-up regimes (Saudi Arabia, Panama, Iran), so please stop acting like you are the definition of justice and honour.
While I don’t hide that I detest the FPÖ, I wasn’t trying to cover for the United States. I was merely pointing out that Austria will be separated and isolated from the rest of the NATO coalition until the security issue with FPÖ is resolved. How you can get that from me, a person who screetches about US interventionist attitudes nonstop, is a mystery.

I’m not going to debate you on Immigration in Austria, as I can tell that you won’t budge from your absolutism nor do I have the ability to spam evidence appropriately enough for the onlookers, after all I can’t read German. Nor will I get off-topic on the discussion at hand, that Austria is a security concern for NATO due to having leaks in the government due to elements having Russian alignment. So debate me on that. What do you think about the current shunning of Austria by other intelligence partners? Do you prefer to break from NATO? Is being in the Russian sphere optimal for your envisioned future for Austrian society?

You probably already know this, Austria is not and will not be a member of NATO (or any other military alliance).

As for the intelligence, calling up the Austrian authorities and saying "Hey, you know that *insert name here* dude, yeah he might be a terrorist" is of no value to Russia, and that's one of the most important aspects of Intelligence for Austria, and as already said, there is no real reason to stop sharing that information.

As for other things, Austria is not really a player on the World Stage, and Vienna is a hub for US/Nato  and Russian spies as it is (American NSA Villa in Vienna or the Austrian officer who was arrested after sharing info with Russians).

I also doubt that the FPÖ is sharing any Top Secret info with Russia because one mistake could be very costly for them. The last FPÖ government was a disaster, so they realize they have a limited number of mistakes they can make before being sidelined again, for a long long time (or until a new mass migration wave happens).

IMO, Limiting Austria's access is pretty dumb considering that no "Intel sharing/passing" actually happened.
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« Reply #145 on: April 11, 2019, 08:32:51 AM »

sad that spö and fpö fans are fighting when it's clear that övp is biggest evil in austria and true criminal nest
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« Reply #146 on: April 11, 2019, 01:59:37 PM »

As long as the foreign spy groups warn us a day before Russia plans to invade us, everything should be fine ...

Everything else is negligible.
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« Reply #147 on: April 13, 2019, 03:06:50 AM »

New "Profil" magazine poll by Unique Research has the FPÖ dropping and the SPÖ gaining:

34% ÖVP (n.c.)
28% SPÖ (+3)
22% FPÖ (-2)
  7% NEOS (-1)
  5% Greens (n.c.)
  2% NOW (n.c.)
  2% Others (n.c.)

61% of voters do not think the disassociation of the FPÖ from the far-right Identitarians is convincing enough.

https://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/OTS_20190413_OTS0003/profil-umfrage-kanzlerfrage-kurz-zieht-davon-profitiert-von-identitaeren-machtwort
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« Reply #148 on: April 13, 2019, 11:25:50 AM »

100-200 Identitarians held a demo today in Vienna incl. Martin Sellner:



About 2.000-5.000 protested against them:



Both demos concluded peacefully, thanks to the massive police presence.

https://derstandard.at/2000101362650/Identitaere-Kundgebung-und-Gegendemo-in-Wien
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« Reply #149 on: April 14, 2019, 10:52:50 AM »

Combined Austria-wide results of the union vote, representing the 4 million Austrian employees have been released and the FSG (Faction of Socialist Unionists) increased their dominant position by 3.3%, whereas the ÖVP-, FPÖ- and Green-affiliated unionists all lost ground or remained stable. 7 of the 9 states were won by the FSG, 2 are historically dominated by the ÖVP unionists. Roughly 2 million of the 4 million workers took part in the union vote in the previous months. This is good news for the SPÖ because it could mean a revival of their base ahead of the EU elections:

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