A question regarding Jared Polis
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 23, 2024, 12:36:37 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Discussion
  Constitution and Law (Moderator: Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.)
  A question regarding Jared Polis		 « previous next »
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: A question regarding Jared Polis  (Read 1233 times)
Anzeigenhauptmeister
Hades
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,374
Israel


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: December 31, 2018, 05:00:58 PM »
The male presidents' and male governors' wives are called First Ladies.
The female presidents' and female governors' husbands are called First Lads or First Gentlemen.
But what about the spouses of homosexual presidents and governors? What term does the Constitution intend for them?
Logged
Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 06:48:05 PM »
I don't think, IIRC, that the term "First Lady" is in the Constitution at all. If it's a gay couple, I would assume that it would just be the First Gentleman, and, for a lesbian couple, First Lady.
Logged
brucejoel99
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,704
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -3.30

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 09:43:30 PM »
Quote from: Free Bird on December 31, 2018, 06:48:05 PM
I don't think, IIRC, that the term "First Lady" is in the Constitution at all. If it's a gay couple, I would assume that it would just be the First Gentleman, and, for a lesbian couple, First Lady.

Yeah, this. The term "first lady/gentleman" isn't a constitutional or legal term, it's just the unofficial title used for the spouses of the President & Governors. It's a social construct, & it didn't even come into common use 'til the late 1800s.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 06:36:36 PM »
Quote from: Ἅιδης on December 31, 2018, 05:00:58 PM
The male presidents' and male governors' wives are called First Ladies.
The female presidents' and female governors' husbands are called First Lads or First Gentlemen.
But what about the spouses of homosexual presidents and governors? What term does the Constitution intend for them?

Interestingly, no presidential spouse was referred to as the "First Lady" until Lucy Hayes.
Logged
Del Tachi
Republican95
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,852
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: 1.46

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2019, 12:45:30 AM »
In fact, socially the term "First Lady" is never used.  It would be inappropriate to say
"President and First Lady Trump".  It would always be "President and Mrs. Trump".
Logged
Sir Mohamed
MohamedChalid
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,673
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2019, 10:17:03 AM »
Jennifer Siebel, the wife of Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA), is called "first partner". For what reason ever.
Logged
Free Bird
TheHawk
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,917
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.84, S: -5.48

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2019, 10:20:32 AM »
Quote from: Sir Mohamed on January 16, 2019, 10:17:03 AM
Jennifer Siebel, the wife of Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA), is called "first partner". For what reason ever.

Seems like needless newspeak to solve a nonexistent problem tbh. Marlon Reis is sitting right now in Colorado under the title "First Gentleman."
Logged
Frodo
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 24,566
United States


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2019, 10:20:55 AM »
Quote from: Del Tachi on January 12, 2019, 12:45:30 AM
In fact, socially the term "First Lady" is never used.  It would be inappropriate to say
"President and First Lady Trump".  It would always be "President and Mrs. Trump".

For good reason -I doubt the wife of the Vice-President would appreciate being called the 'Second Lady'.  Tongue
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.035 seconds with 12 queries.