Are black Republicans/Conservatives "Black?"

[MODU]

Two interesting articles e-mailed to me today:

"'Party trumps race' for Steele foes"

Black Democratic leaders in Maryland say that racially tinged attacks against Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele in his bid for the U.S. Senate are fair because he is a conservative Republican.
    Such attacks against the first black man to win a statewide election in Maryland include pelting him with Oreo cookies during a campaign appearance, calling him an "Uncle Tom" and depicting him as a black-faced minstrel on a liberal Web log.
    Operatives for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) also obtained a copy of his credit report -- the only Republican candidate so targeted.
    But black Democrats say there is nothing wrong with "pointing out the obvious."

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"Clarence Thomas not a real black?
Paper arguing for court 'diversity' wants asterisk by his name

In an editorial arguing for "diversity" on the U.S. Supreme Court after the nomination yesterday of Samuel Alito, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel suggested Justice Clarence Thomas doesn't count as a black.

The daily's editorial board, lamenting the choice of a man to replace Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, opined today: "In losing a woman, the court with Alito would feature seven white men, one white woman and a black man, who deserves an asterisk because he arguably does not represent the views of mainstream black America."

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So, are we to imply through these two article (and the numerous articles regarding Powell as not being black when he joined the White House) that blacks should only be Democrats?  Yes, that is a trick question, but seriously, why is there such a backlash against black Republicans/Conservatives?

[Keystone Phil]

And I guess I shouldn't consider white Democrats to be white.

[Moooooo]

First off, the 'Oreo Cookie Pelting' incident is a complete myth. 

Steele himself reported (and nobody else saw it, apparently) that a single cookie rolled down the aisle of the auditorium. He was quoted at the time as follows:

“Maybe it was just someone having their snack, but it was there,” Steele said.
 
Here is a link to the article that contains Steele’s quote:

Now, back to the topic.  Of course they are real blacks.  I have no problem with conservative black Republicans.  Its a free country and they are entitled to their own opinion.

[AuH2O]

Well, obviously there are extreme leftist, racist papers and groups that do not consider black conservatives black. That's the whole point of their ideology, is it not? Thomas isn't black, free markets don't work, criminals shouldn't be punsihed, etc.

This is all basic neo-marxism. That's different from "liberalism" because marxists only consider facts to be things that are congruent with their doctrine. So, a 'liberal' would say "Thomas is black but I don't like him," whereas the marxist says "Thomas isn't black." I am criticized for calling people communists but I do so to avoid lumping, say, nick in with that group.

[J. J.]

We see the "tolerence" wing of the loony left back at it.

[opebo]

Obviously right wing blacks are uncle toms.

[Platypus]

whilst they don't 'represent the viws of mainstream black america' or whatever, yes; they are black.

[J-Mann]

Yes they're black -- racial identification has nothing to do with party ID, just as it has nothing to do with attitude or location or manner of speech, etc.  When liberal blacks insist that all blacks must hold the same views or be ostracized from being identified as black, they are merely reinforcing a stereotype themselves.

[Virginian87]

Of course they're black.  You can't define a race simply by a certain mindset.

[dazzleman]

Yes they're black -- racial identification has nothing to do with party ID, just as it has nothing to do with attitude or location or manner of speech, etc.  When liberal blacks insist that all blacks must hold the same views or be ostracized from being identified as black, they are merely reinforcing a stereotype themselves.

^^^^^^^^^^^

[MarkDel]

We see the "tolerence" wing of the loony left back at it.

Sadly, the "tolerance" wing of the party pretty much has become the party in the 21st Century.

[MODU]

So, since we all agree that black is black (no matter which party you're in), how do we deprogram those who believe conservative black leaders don't "represent the views of mainstream black America?"

[DanielX]

So, since we all agree that black is black (no matter which party you're in), how do we deprogram those who believe conservative black leaders don't "represent the views of mainstream black America?"

Have them spend a week on a desert island with only Clarence Thomas for company?

Of course, that assumes they survive the experience...

[minionofmidas]

So, since we all agree that black is black (no matter which party you're in), how do we deprogram those who believe conservative black leaders don't "represent the views of mainstream black America?"

Uh - we all agree that Clarence Thomas is Black. But I do hope we also all agree he doesn't represent the views of mainstream Black America.

Then again neither Ruth Bader Ginsburg nor Antonin Scalia represents the views of mainstream White America.

Oh, and btw, Colin Powell is an American Black but the descendant of Jamaican Whites. Both countries use the one-drop rule... only the other way round... and needless to say neither position makes any sense... which doesn't mean you should change it... just that you should be aware of the fact.

[Cubby]

So, since we all agree that black is black (no matter which party you're in), how do we deprogram those who believe conservative black leaders don't "represent the views of mainstream black America?"

What the heck do you mean "deprogram"? Thats thought control and only worthy of a police state.

False- Conservative blacks aren't black

True- Conservative blacks don't represent maintstream black America

[dazzleman]

Just because a person a black gives him/her no obligation to represent "mainstream" black America.  Blacks should be free to hold whatever opinions they want, just like everybody else.  It's sad how blacks seem to be stereotying themselves to a large degree, even as they complain when others do it to them.

[Lincoln Republican]

What gives anyone the right to define who is and who isn't "Black?"

The Democratic Party has been taking the support of "Black" Americans for granted for generations. 

Hopefully, more and more "Blacks" will come to this realization, and start once again to assert their independence, their independence to support who they want, regardless of what anybody else says or thinks.

[Cubby]

What gives anyone the right to define who is and who isn't "Black?"

The Democratic Party has been taking the support of "Black" Americans for granted for generations. 

Hopefully, more and more "Blacks" will come to this realization, and start once again to assert their independence, their independence to support who they want, regardless of what anybody else says or thinks.

Yes then they'll be free to vote for a party that used the Southern Strategy of courting George Wallace voters for 30 years. Why should blacks join your party? their oppressors are still voting for you even if they are no longer overtly racist.

You guys are so desperate for blacks to become Republican but it won't ever happen so stop trying, especially after what we saw with Hurricane Katrina.

[MODU]

So, since we all agree that black is black (no matter which party you're in), how do we deprogram those who believe conservative black leaders don't "represent the views of mainstream black America?"

What the heck do you mean "deprogram"? Thats thought control and only worthy of a police state.

False- Conservative blacks aren't black

True- Conservative blacks don't represent maintstream black America

So, define what "mainstream black America" is.

[minionofmidas]

Just because a person a black gives him/her no obligation to represent "mainstream" black America.  Blacks should be free to hold whatever opinions they want, just like everybody else.

Well, obviously. And they are.

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Now you're stereotyping.

[minionofmidas]

So, define what "mainstream black America" is.

It's a fuzzy concept, obviously.

[MODU]

So, define what "mainstream black America" is.

It's a fuzzy concept, obviously.

hahaha . . . are you the king of one-liners today?