HR 1363: Balanced Budget Amendment Resolution (Rejected)
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Esteemed Jimmy
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« on: January 11, 2019, 09:50:05 AM »
« edited: February 14, 2019, 01:14:45 PM by Esteemed Speaker Jimmy7812 »
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 09:51:46 AM »
HR 1363 is now on the House floor. Debate on this legislation has begun and shall last for no less than 72 hours.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 04:33:45 PM »
Do any representives have anything to add?
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 09:00:02 PM »
As I said in a previous balanced budget bill, I am not of fan of such.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 10:13:04 PM »
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As I said in a previous balanced budget bill, I am not of fan of such.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 10:22:19 PM »
See here the recession issue actually does pose a problem. If it could just be done by statute, the statute could be repealed rather quickly if a recession did occur (at least no less quickly then any actual spending could move). Constitutional amendments, however, take much more time to instate and repeal, and, more to the point, aren't supposed to be temporary.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 05:34:21 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2019, 12:53:56 PM »
If this Constitutional amendment resolution isn't amended to follow House rules, this resolution will be removed from the floor for being frivolous in 24 hours.

"7.) All resolutions seeking to amend the constitution must be introduced along with a passage detailing what is being changed in the Constitution and why, called the Amendment Explanation."
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2019, 05:27:28 PM »
« Edited: January 15, 2019, 05:39:16 PM by Representative LouisvilleThunder »
I propose an amendment.

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2019, 05:44:51 PM »
The proposed amendment will meet House rules.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2019, 11:02:49 PM »
This seems to be campaigning by explanation, with the loaded and leading use of "bring back fiscal responsibility to Atlasia" when the factual impacts of the amendment can be stated without such questionable assumptions and subjective judgements and so that the impact is fairly and neutrally stated rather than the wording giving one side an undue advantage.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2019, 05:36:06 PM »
I motion for a final vote. Representatives have 24 hours for objections.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2019, 01:59:45 AM »
Here's another amendment.

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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2019, 03:18:50 AM »
What about to prevent a recession, or for a military buildup in preparation for an expected war? Currently I feel the risk of policymakers being overly restricted is still too great, and there's no huge need to slash and burn to stop the bogeyman of a fiscal crisis when existing measures and responsibility are the best course and we are seeing the deficit already decrease which we can expect to continue. Fundamentally while well intentioned both this particular amendment and the underlying idea have many flaws and would not work well in reality and would have unintended consequences.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2019, 10:22:28 AM »
LouisvilleThunder's amendment has been adopted. The bill currently stands as:

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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2019, 11:04:30 AM »
I motion for a final vote. Representatives have 24 hours for objections.
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2019, 11:42:56 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2019, 07:48:23 PM »
I hope the explanation is fixed so that is more explanatory and neutral and does not have the effect, intended or not, of giving the amendment an undue advantage.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2019, 01:42:23 PM »
A final vote has begun on this bill. Please vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2019, 01:44:48 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2019, 01:50:10 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2019, 02:04:56 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2019, 02:16:50 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2019, 02:28:27 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2019, 10:06:18 PM »
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