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« on: January 11, 2019, 08:45:05 pm »

Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC), who is Black, wrote an op-ed relating to Rep. Steve King's (R-IA} comments and the GOP's frequent silence on White supremacists like King:

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"When people with opinions similar to King’s open their mouths, they damage not only the Republican Party and the conservative brand but also our nation as a whole. They want to be treated with fairness for some perceived slights but refuse to return the favor to those on the other side.

Some in our party wonder why Republicans are constantly accused of racism — it is because of our silence when things like this are said. Immigration is the perfect example, in which somehow our affection for the rule of law has become conflated with a perceived racism against brown and black people.

I do support border security not because I want to keep certain ethnicities out of our nation, but because I support enforcing our laws. I do not care if you come from Canada, France or Honduras, if you break our laws, there should be consequences. But it has become almost impossible to have a reasonable conversation along those lines. That’s in part why I laid out my agenda on civility, fairness and opportunity on Thursday on the floor of the Senate".

SOURCE: https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/2019/01/11/tim-scott-republicans-can-no-longer-be-silent-bigotry/
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 09:42:52 pm »

Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC), who is Black, wrote an op-ed relating to Rep. Steve King's (R-IA} comments and the GOP's frequent silence on White supremacists like King:

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"When people with opinions similar to King’s open their mouths, they damage not only the Republican Party and the conservative brand but also our nation as a whole. They want to be treated with fairness for some perceived slights but refuse to return the favor to those on the other side.

Some in our party wonder why Republicans are constantly accused of racism — it is because of our silence when things like this are said. Immigration is the perfect example, in which somehow our affection for the rule of law has become conflated with a perceived racism against brown and black people.

I do support border security not because I want to keep certain ethnicities out of our nation, but because I support enforcing our laws. I do not care if you come from Canada, France or Honduras, if you break our laws, there should be consequences. But it has become almost impossible to have a reasonable conversation along those lines. That’s in part why I laid out my agenda on civility, fairness and opportunity on Thursday on the floor of the Senate".

SOURCE: https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/2019/01/11/tim-scott-republicans-can-no-longer-be-silent-bigotry/

Scott is exactly right. People like Steve King have no place in the Republican Party, no place in Congress, and no place in our politics.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 09:45:08 pm »

Well, Donald Trump is “like King,” and he’s exactly who Republicans want. So...
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 09:45:52 pm »

I kinda wish Parties here had the same power parties have in other countries where they have the power to stop them from running under their party banner.


But in the meanwhile he should be stripped of all his committee assignments and then primaried in 2020 and if that doesnt work a Republican should run as an independent to make sure he loses
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 09:47:42 pm »

Tim Scott should be president someday.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 09:48:36 pm »

Well, Donald Trump is “like King,” and he’s exactly who Republicans want. So...

same party base nominated Romney and McCain.

Also the media is to blame for Trump as much as the base is. They promoted him non stop gave him all that free media and in today world thats a huge reason why people win
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 09:48:45 pm »

The Republican Party elected Donald Trump as President of the United States.

Therefore, they're a party of racists.   Deal with it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 10:41:01 pm »

Tim Scott should be president someday.

Why say "someday?"
You already have the equivalent of what Tim Scott is, right now, with the Orange Buffoon.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 11:23:17 pm »

Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC), who is Black, wrote an op-ed relating to Rep. Steve King's (R-IA} comments and the GOP's frequent silence on White supremacists like King:

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"When people with opinions similar to King’s open their mouths, they damage not only the Republican Party and the conservative brand but also our nation as a whole. They want to be treated with fairness for some perceived slights but refuse to return the favor to those on the other side.

Some in our party wonder why Republicans are constantly accused of racism — it is because of our silence when things like this are said. Immigration is the perfect example, in which somehow our affection for the rule of law has become conflated with a perceived racism against brown and black people.

I do support border security not because I want to keep certain ethnicities out of our nation, but because I support enforcing our laws. I do not care if you come from Canada, France or Honduras, if you break our laws, there should be consequences. But it has become almost impossible to have a reasonable conversation along those lines. That’s in part why I laid out my agenda on civility, fairness and opportunity on Thursday on the floor of the Senate".

SOURCE: https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/2019/01/11/tim-scott-republicans-can-no-longer-be-silent-bigotry/

Scott is exactly right. People like Steve King have no place in the Republican Party, no place in Congress, and no place in our politics.

Scott is basically right, but Steve King has a place in our politics because the voters of his Congressional district are sovereign.

If the GOP want's to do something, let them censure Steve King.  Let the resolution have the massive backing of Republicans.  Strip him of his committee assignments.  Strip him of his seniority.  Boot him out of the GOP Csucus.  They can do all of those things.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 11:42:02 pm »

Well, Donald Trump is “like King,” and he’s exactly who Republicans want. So...

same party base nominated Romney and McCain.

Also the media is to blame for Trump as much as the base is. They promoted him non stop gave him all that free media and in today world thats a huge reason why people win

Not in the least the same Bass. The GOP has fundamentally changed for the worst right down to the soul.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 11:50:40 pm »

I kinda wish Parties here had the same power parties have in other countries where they have the power to stop them from running under their party banner.


But in the meanwhile he should be stripped of all his committee assignments and then primaried in 2020 and if that doesnt work a Republican should run as an independent to make sure he loses

He definitely should be stripped of his assignments from within the GOP but I doubt the GOP will actually do that. Steve King Represents a significant portion of the GOP too well for them to do that. At the very minimum 1/4 and probably 1/3.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 11:52:30 pm »

Well, Donald Trump is “like King,” and he’s exactly who Republicans want. So...

same party base nominated Romney and McCain.

Also the media is to blame for Trump as much as the base is. They promoted him non stop gave him all that free media and in today world thats a huge reason why people win

Not in the least the same Bass. The GOP has fundamentally changed for the worst right down to the soul.

No it hasn't the GOP has been fundamentally evil since 1968 and if not then at the very lates it has been fundamentally evil since 1980.
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2019, 12:45:15 am »

Well, Donald Trump is “like King,” and he’s exactly who Republicans want. So...

same party base nominated Romney and McCain.

Also the media is to blame for Trump as much as the base is. They promoted him non stop gave him all that free media and in today world thats a huge reason why people win

Mitt Romney practically got down on his knees to thank Trump for his endorsement in 2012.

He also ran one of the most virulently anti-immigrant campaigns as of that date - lest we forget his vow to make the Hispanics "self-deport."
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2019, 12:52:55 am »

Well, Donald Trump is “like King,” and he’s exactly who Republicans want. So...

same party base nominated Romney and McCain.

Also the media is to blame for Trump as much as the base is. They promoted him non stop gave him all that free media and in today world thats a huge reason why people win

Mitt Romney practically got down on his knees to thank Trump for his endorsement in 2012.

He also ran one of the most virulently anti-immigrant campaigns as of that date - lest we forget his vow to make the Hispanics "self-deport."


Ugh that comment was taken completely out of context

He clearly stated what that meant was that he would cut of government benefits from illegal immigrants and enforce e verify so they don’t get jobs either . That proposal is not only responable it’s also completely correct.


Also on legal immigration he proposed this :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/06/22/mitt-romneys-immigration-plan-the-full-text/?utm_term=.47359fc1707c

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Attract More Highly Skilled Immigrants:

·         High-skill immigrants start companies, create jobs, and drive innovation at an especially high rate. The United States is also projected to face a shortage of 230,000 science and technology workers by 2018.  At the same time, we have set the caps on high-skill visas so low that, for some countries, an entire year’s quota has been filled in an hour.  Mitt Romney will ask Congress to raise the caps on visas for highly skilled immigrants.
·         Many country caps—or limits on immigrants from specific countries—are so low, that America is losing some of the best and brightest to our international competitors.  Mitt Romney will work with Congress to raise the country caps.
·         America should keep the best and the brightest here in the United States.  Every foreign student who obtains an advanced degree in math, science, or engineering at a U.S. university should be granted permanent residency.



The liberal media parroted the Obama campaign and called him anti immigrant which was totally false . He was very pro legal immigrant especially high skilled ones . Yes he was tough on illegal immigration but that doesn’t make someone anti immigrant
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2019, 01:07:36 am »

Go on the popular conservative news sites like Breitbart. The comments there are indistinguishable from white nationalists, it's the exact same rhetoric and arguments. The Republican base is racist. And no, it's not both sides. You won't find hardcore anti-white SJW rhetoric in Democraticunderground or Daily Kos comment sections.
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2019, 07:42:38 am »

Scott is right.

Notice how he doesn't say "Now in order to not be racist, we need to be clones of the Democrats."
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2019, 09:27:40 am »

Well, Donald Trump is “like King,” and he’s exactly who Republicans want. So...

same party base nominated Romney and McCain.

Also the media is to blame for Trump as much as the base is. They promoted him non stop gave him all that free media and in today world that's a huge reason why people win

Trump offered me what I wanted in a candidate, issue-wise.  On immigration, on foreign policy, on trade, I agreed with him.  I didn't need to see media over and over.  And I agreed that he represented a needed departure from the neocons.

If I made a mistake in voting for Trump, that's on me.  In the same manner, if I made a mistake on voting for Bill Clinton (twice), that's on me as well.
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2019, 10:01:37 am »

Tim Scott should be president someday.
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2019, 10:06:51 am »

Its about the Southern Strategy. Which was first used by Nixon and perfected by Reagan. Clarence Thomas used quotas to become a judge. Quotas are used to help ethnics get ahead in employment and schooling


In critical elections that the Crt was up in 2004 or 2016, both Dubya and Trump emplored the Southern strategy to solidify a conservative bloc. By swift boating Kerry and calling Hilary crocked
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2019, 10:40:26 am »

Go on the popular conservative news sites like Breitbart. The comments there are indistinguishable from white nationalists, it's the exact same rhetoric and arguments. The Republican base is racist. And no, it's not both sides. You won't find hardcore anti-white SJW rhetoric in Democraticunderground or Daily Kos comment sections.
Yeah, I largely agree with this.

The comment sections on right wing/Republican websites is full of White supremacists, Neo-Confederates, Neo-Nazis and Alt-Right trolls. It's really disgusting.

You can be reading a story about Trump and the border wall and scroll down to the comments and see comments like "We should round up all illegal Mexicans and shoot them". WTF? Or "We are prepared for war against Blacks and Muslims". Or "White liberals are traitors to the White race and they will be left behind in the race war" Huh. It's insane.

The Republican Party has to ostracized these POSs but they don't and won't (for various reasons).
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 11:24:11 am »

Go on the popular conservative news sites like Breitbart. The comments there are indistinguishable from white nationalists, it's the exact same rhetoric and arguments. The Republican base is racist. And no, it's not both sides. You won't find hardcore anti-white SJW rhetoric in Democraticunderground or Daily Kos comment sections.
Yeah this is what gets when moderate reps and indies play the “both sides” argument. The fake is Dems not mainstream their nuts the way reps do. Case in point our president. He rose to fame within the Republican Party on birtherism. At the height of anti-Bush fever the democrats never let the “Bush is behind 9/11” crowd near the parties mainstream let alone the presidential nom.
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2019, 12:40:02 pm »

Well, Donald Trump is “like King,” and he’s exactly who Republicans want. So...

same party base nominated Romney and McCain.

Also the media is to blame for Trump as much as the base is. They promoted him non stop gave him all that free media and in today world that's a huge reason why people win

Trump offered me what I wanted in a candidate, issue-wise.  On immigration, on foreign policy, on trade, I agreed with him.  I didn't need to see media over and over.  And I agreed that he represented a needed departure from the neocons.

If I made a mistake in voting for Trump, that's on me.  In the same manner, if I made a mistake on voting for Bill Clinton (twice), that's on me as well.



You follow politics far more than the average person does though so that’s different.

The average voter unfortunately is far more influenced by media coverage than you and I are .
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2019, 12:52:10 pm »

Its about the Southern Strategy. Which was first used by Nixon and perfected by Reagan. Clarence Thomas used quotas to become a judge. Quotas are used to help ethnics get ahead in employment and schooling


In critical elections that the Crt was up in 2004 or 2016, both Dubya and Trump emplored the Southern strategy to solidify a conservative bloc. By swift boating Kerry and calling Hilary crocked

Nixon nailed down the Southern strategy to where the South became permanently Republican at the Presidential level, but he never minded conservative Southern Democrats (amongst whose ranks were some of his bitter-end supporters) kept getting elected to Congress.  Carter carried the South in 1976 only because white Southerners perceived him as less liberal then he actually was.

The South is nowhere near as important a battleground as it once was.  VA is Democratic, FL and NC are battleground states, and I keep hearing how GA and TX will become so (although I'm far from conivniced).  The rest of the South seems to be hopelessly Republican for my lifetime.
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2019, 12:59:52 pm »

Go on the popular conservative news sites like Breitbart. The comments there are indistinguishable from white nationalists, it's the exact same rhetoric and arguments. The Republican base is racist. And no, it's not both sides. You won't find hardcore anti-white SJW rhetoric in Democraticunderground or Daily Kos comment sections.

Um, look at the comments.

Don't play games. Democrats have a white voter problem as the Republicans have a minority voters problem.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/118764285#post61
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2019, 01:18:19 pm »

Barf, glad we were at least able to unseat Mia Love. I am not a fan those who sell their identity out like this to be the token in a group. Tim Scott may have slapped King’s wrist, but it is not nearly enough.
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