GA-SEN 2020 Class II Megathread (Perdue inc.)

[QAnonKelly]

Agree the GA Dem candidates have been pretty impressive this year. On top of that, Perdue (and Loeffler) have also run terrible campaigns where the central platform was hugging Trump as closely as they could. Makes no sense given that both Perdue and Loeffler were supposed to be candidates that could attract suburbanities who weren't in love with Trump.

I'm more than happy to eat sh**t after thinking both Ossoff & Warnock were weak choices.

The lesson of this cycle has been that you're almost better as as non-office holder; our best choices have never held elected office (Kelly, Harrison, Ossoff, Warnock)

It astonishes me the extent to which Republican candidates of virtually all stripes have either tied themselves to Trump, or have been unable to disengage themselves from him. You see it, for example, in Susan Collins' refusal to explicitly disavow Trump and to reveal how she is voting in the upcoming election. But you see it also with the appeals by various Republican politicians, using the same language and the same kinds of attacks as employed by Trump. This is why I don't think his influence is going to disappear from the Party if he loses reelection.

John James is the only R nominee in a semi-competitive state that has been able to do it bc he’s not actually in the senate

[Calthrina950]

Agree the GA Dem candidates have been pretty impressive this year. On top of that, Perdue (and Loeffler) have also run terrible campaigns where the central platform was hugging Trump as closely as they could. Makes no sense given that both Perdue and Loeffler were supposed to be candidates that could attract suburbanities who weren't in love with Trump.

I'm more than happy to eat sh**t after thinking both Ossoff & Warnock were weak choices.

The lesson of this cycle has been that you're almost better as as non-office holder; our best choices have never held elected office (Kelly, Harrison, Ossoff, Warnock)

It astonishes me the extent to which Republican candidates of virtually all stripes have either tied themselves to Trump, or have been unable to disengage themselves from him. You see it, for example, in Susan Collins' refusal to explicitly disavow Trump and to reveal how she is voting in the upcoming election. But you see it also with the appeals by various Republican politicians, using the same language and the same kinds of attacks as employed by Trump. This is why I don't think his influence is going to disappear from the Party if he loses reelection.

John James is the only R nominee in a semi-competitive state that has been able to do it bc he’s not actually in the senate

That's correct, and it's part of why James will probably run ahead of Trump next week. I expect him to get the support of some suburbanite voters who will be backing Biden.

[lfromnj]

Anyway looked at 2008 and 2018 exit polls for Georgia from CNN.

According to exit polls Obama tied among voters with a high school degree or less and also tied among some college voters and tying with post grad voters.


Meanwhile in 2018 Abrams tied among some college and community college voters while landsliding with postgrad and healthily winning bachelor's degree. Kemp only won high school and less voters but by a huge landslide.
These polls aren't the most accurate especially the older ones but still

I wonder which groups turnout for runoffs at the highest rate?(rhetorical)


https://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=GAP00p1

Vote by Education
Total
 Obama McCain Other/No Answer  
No High School (7%)
63%
37%
N/A
 
 
H.S. Graduate (21%)
45%
55%
N/A
 
 
Some College (28%)
51%
49%
N/A
 
 
College Graduate (32%)
43%
56%
1%
 
 
Postgraduate (11%)
49%
50%
1%

https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/exit-polls/georgia

HS or less
30%
38%   61%   1%
Some college
25%
50%   48%   2%
Associate's degree
12%
51%   48%   1%
Bachelor's degree
21%
54%   45%   1%
Advanced degree
12%
60%   39%   1%

Another factor in the 2008 GE is that black turnout was inflated by Obama, however now Georgia has trended D enough that Democrats can easily get past 2008 obama levels even without that high black turnout. Without Obama on the ballot black turnout collapsed especially for a runoff.

[Rookie Yinzer]

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.

That's a reach.

Stacey Abrams still exists.

Osoff is a far better candidate than Abrams at this point.

No. Abrams boosted turnout within Democratic-leaning constituencies which is one of the ways candidate quality still matters in GA.

Abrams probably boosted African-American turnout at the margins...and then she went off the deep end with her Trumpian refusal to accept the election results after she lost and has been grifting ever since (well...that and publicly embarrassing herself by spamming news shows in sad attempt to convince people she wouldn’t be a Sarah Palin-level disaster if Biden picked her as VP).  At this point, she’s not just damaged goods, she’s a B- candidate at best.

Regular people don’t care about any of that. Abrams has more gravitas and would generate more energy than Ossoff.

[wbrocks67]

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.

That's a reach.

Stacey Abrams still exists.

Osoff is a far better candidate than Abrams at this point.

No. Abrams boosted turnout within Democratic-leaning constituencies which is one of the ways candidate quality still matters in GA.

Abrams probably boosted African-American turnout at the margins...and then she went off the deep end with her Trumpian refusal to accept the election results after she lost and has been grifting ever since (well...that and publicly embarrassing herself by spamming news shows in sad attempt to convince people she wouldn’t be a Sarah Palin-level disaster if Biden picked her as VP).  At this point, she’s not just damaged goods, she’s a B- candidate at best.

Regular people don’t care about any of that. Abrams has more gravitas and would generate more energy than Ossoff.

I don't think that's true anymore. Ossoff has gotten a lot of momentum in the closing weeks and seems to be exciting people a lot...

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.

That's a reach.

Stacey Abrams still exists.

Osoff is a far better candidate than Abrams at this point.

No. Abrams boosted turnout within Democratic-leaning constituencies which is one of the ways candidate quality still matters in GA.

Abrams probably boosted African-American turnout at the margins...and then she went off the deep end with her Trumpian refusal to accept the election results after she lost and has been grifting ever since (well...that and publicly embarrassing herself by spamming news shows in sad attempt to convince people she wouldn’t be a Sarah Palin-level disaster if Biden picked her as VP).  At this point, she’s not just damaged goods, she’s a B- candidate at best.

Regular people don’t care about any of that. Abrams has more gravitas and would generate more energy than Ossoff.

1) Let’s be honest, Abrams has no gravitas whatsoever and was considered a lightweight gadfly in the VPstakes for good reason.  Fairly or unfairly, she comes off as some random whactivist with an overinflated opinion of themselves.  Fairly or unfairly, Osoff comes across as a smart, inspiring, thoughtful guy.

2) Normal people don’t like stuff like Abrams sore-loser whining about how unfair it was that Kemp got to be Governor just b/c he got the most votes.  Refusing to accept the results of an election you lost is a bad look whether you’re Donald Trump or Stacy Abrams.

[Frenchrepublican]

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1324777843558092800?s=20

Maybe it’s time to stop calling these people « Conservative »

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1324557763335364613

KING OF THE SUBURBS DAVID PERDUE

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Perdue is scared to debate Ossoff, it showed when he cancelled the last debate with Ossoff, he wants to hide from the truth about Covid.

Dems are gonna nationalize both races, the stimulus is riding on a Chuck Schumer Senate, McConnell is gonna force D's to filibuster the stimulus package due to fact he only wants 500 B not 2.2'T