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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #75 on: April 30, 2019, 07:28:53 AM »

Safe R, Dems are disadvantaged in run-off elections aside from LA, especiall Espy and Abrams
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« Reply #76 on: April 30, 2019, 07:49:12 AM »

This really just took the air out of the balloon for me for 2020. The Dems are not taking back the Senate and everything they will debate and nitpick about in the primary is useless because McConnell will block everything.

Thats odd, I remember scheduling the weekly "#Demsindisarray Panic" for this Friday.....
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« Reply #77 on: April 30, 2019, 08:50:14 AM »
« Edited: April 30, 2019, 08:56:06 AM by RussFeingoldWasRobbed »

Well this sucks. Now we're going to get some boring centrist.
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« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM »

Who cares? No ratings change. Always has been Likely R, still is, and will remain dem fool's gold.
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« Reply #79 on: April 30, 2019, 10:29:42 AM »

Looks like Teresa Tomlinson is running.

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« Reply #80 on: April 30, 2019, 10:41:18 AM »

It looks like Abrams is out:



Ugh. There goes a pick up opportunity.

Teresa Tomlinson is a perfectly fine candidate.

Agreed. Sad fact is, Abrams was going to get slimed with the "sore loser" thing, even though, IMO, it's totally unjustified. I only learned who Tomlinson was when I read her name here this morning, but from a quick Google Search, she seems inoffensive enough that Biden could pull her over the line if he's winning by a decent margin.
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« Reply #81 on: April 30, 2019, 10:48:54 AM »

As long as Tomlinson knows how to campaign in the right places she has a good chance at winning. Just about every statewide race last year was close so it seems to me as if Democrats have built up a strong foundation to build upon moving forward.
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« Reply #82 on: April 30, 2019, 10:57:29 AM »

While I’m disappointed that Abrams isn’t running, I think Tomlinson will be able to build off of the foundation the Abrams campaign built. There’s still a real race here, and Tomlinson has an opportunity to define herself and Perdue.
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« Reply #83 on: April 30, 2019, 12:08:58 PM »

Georgia is Lean R.

Isakson will probably retire in 2022, Abrams could win then, or run in a rematch against Kemp.
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« Reply #84 on: April 30, 2019, 02:05:24 PM »

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« Reply #85 on: April 30, 2019, 05:00:05 PM »

Jason Carter needs to run.
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« Reply #86 on: April 30, 2019, 06:37:10 PM »
« Edited: April 30, 2019, 06:40:46 PM by RFKFan68 »

This really just took the air out of the balloon for me for 2020. The Dems are not taking back the Senate and everything they will debate and nitpick about in the primary is useless because McConnell will block everything.

Thats odd, I remember scheduling the weekly "#Demsindisarray Panic" for this Friday.....
Can I be upset that my favorite politician isn't running for 24 hours? LOL. Tomlinson is fine but there is a massive gap in "quality" when we start talking about turning out low propensity voters of color. Money that would have been spent here if Abrams ran could be redirected to a NC or an IA. Anyway I hope Tomlinson has a massive field program on the ground a year before voting starts the way Stacey did. She didn't endorse in the Gubernatorial primary but she definitely was on Abrams's side when it came to how this state was going to flip vs the Evans/Roy Barnes/Max Cleland wing of the party.

Who cares? No ratings change. Always has been Likely R, still is, and will remain dem fool's gold.
Classic Atlas #analysis with nothing to substantiate such ridiculous claims.
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« Reply #87 on: April 30, 2019, 08:21:42 PM »

Tomlinson will be a solid candidate. It may help with a significant number of rural voters that's she's Mayor of Columbus and not from the 'big city' Atlanta. You could run any generic D in Georgia and get 47%...the problem is the runoff (by which I mean avoiding it).
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« Reply #88 on: April 30, 2019, 08:40:09 PM »

I said this in the main Georgia thread that I thought Sarah Riggs Amico would join in with Abrams officially out.... she is going to tour GA for the next few weeks. Her initial pitch she clings to her run for Lt. Gov with Abrams.

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« Reply #89 on: April 30, 2019, 09:05:38 PM »

I really don't think the calculus regarding difficulty or feasibility of Democrats winning this seat changes all that much, but I know many do not agree with me. Both Abrams and Perdue (in 2014) won a less-than-meaningless chunk of the same voters, but I think her choosing to focus on 2022-GOV is probably the best bet for both her personal ambition and that of the party's - rightfully or otherwise, she managed to polarize an already polarized state (despite 2.5x the turnout of the runoff, Abrams lost by the same # of raw votes as Barrow/Miller, meaning she turned out 1 voter to oppose her for every 1 voter she turned out to support her), and a repeat election right after her previous one would not lead to a more favorable outcome in my view; how often has the opposite been true?

Perdue will be hard to beat, but if so many on Atlas are right about "muh inevitable suburbron shifts", then it's really not going to matter who is running for Senate so long as they're competent, right?

Tomlinson is who I'm betting on for now.
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« Reply #90 on: May 01, 2019, 09:02:44 AM »
« Edited: May 01, 2019, 09:06:14 AM by Prolocutor Bagel23 »

Who cares? No ratings change. Always has been Likely R, still is, and will remain dem fool's gold.
Classic Atlas #analysis with nothing to substantiate such ridiculous claims.

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She is a B- tier candidate that barely did better than Clinton (and somehow even worse than her in rural areas hahahaha) against an awful GOP opponent in a dem wave year in a state shifting towards dems in a non-incumbent setting. She's nothing special, and people were fools for giving her much attention in the first place. We are losing out on nothing by her not running. Her or Amico, or Tomlinson, or Holcomb, or any other chump would lose by 3-8 points

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« Reply #91 on: May 01, 2019, 09:06:05 AM »

Who cares? No ratings change. Always has been Likely R, still is, and will remain dem fool's gold.
Classic Atlas #analysis with nothing to substantiate such ridiculous claims.


She is a B- tier candidate that barely did better than Clinton (and somehow even worse than her in rural areas hahahaha) against an awful GOP opponent in a dem wave year in a state shifting towards dems in a non-incumbent setting. She's nothing special, and people were fools for giving her much attention in the first place. We are losing out on nothing by her not running. Her or Amico, or Tomlinson, or Holcomb, or any other chump would lose by 3-8 points
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She did significantly better than Clinton, especially in the suburbs. Please don’t talk about things you know nothing about.
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« Reply #92 on: May 01, 2019, 09:07:17 AM »

Who cares? No ratings change. Always has been Likely R, still is, and will remain dem fool's gold.
Classic Atlas #analysis with nothing to substantiate such ridiculous claims.


She is a B- tier candidate that barely did better than Clinton (and somehow even worse than her in rural areas hahahaha) against an awful GOP opponent in a dem wave year in a state shifting towards dems in a non-incumbent setting. She's nothing special, and people were fools for giving her much attention in the first place. We are losing out on nothing by her not running. Her or Amico, or Tomlinson, or Holcomb, or any other chump would lose by 3-8 points

She did significantly better than Clinton, especially in the suburbs. Please don’t talk about things you know nothing about.
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She did like 3-4 points better than Clinton in the state, and that was all in the suburbs, she did worse than Clinton in rural areas, pathetic! Absolute B- lister
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« Reply #93 on: May 01, 2019, 09:10:26 AM »

Someone good like Stacey Evans would have beaten Kemp. Still held the same numbers everywhere, but do better in the rural areas to barely make it over the top. Abrams is a toxic fit for rural GA, did worse than Hillary there, sad!
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« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2019, 09:35:41 AM »

Someone good like Stacey Evans would have beaten Kemp. Still held the same numbers everywhere, but do better in the rural areas to barely make it over the top. Abrams is a toxic fit for rural GA, did worse than Hillary there, sad!

Anybody who watched her hilariously bad campaign in the primary knows this is patently false.
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« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2019, 01:19:55 PM »

Someone good like Stacey Evans would have beaten Kemp. Still held the same numbers everywhere, but do better in the rural areas to barely make it over the top. Abrams is a toxic fit for rural GA, did worse than Hillary there, sad!

Anybody who watched her hilariously bad campaign in the primary knows this is patently false.
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« Reply #96 on: May 01, 2019, 01:20:13 PM »

Someone good like Stacey Evans would have beaten Kemp. Still held the same numbers everywhere, but do better in the rural areas to barely make it over the top. Abrams is a toxic fit for rural GA, did worse than Hillary there, sad!

Anybody who watched her hilariously bad campaign in the primary knows this is patently false.
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« Reply #97 on: May 01, 2019, 04:00:19 PM »

Someone good like Stacey Evans would have beaten Kemp. Still held the same numbers everywhere, but do better in the rural areas to barely make it over the top. Abrams is a toxic fit for rural GA, did worse than Hillary there, sad!
Ever heard of something called turnout?
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« Reply #98 on: May 01, 2019, 04:02:50 PM »

Abrams had damaged herself significantly first with her conspiratorial assertion that she actually won the election. And then by going so national in liberal circles and shedding any kind of bipartisan image she was trying to sell in '18. People also forget she carried quite a bit of baggage as a candidate I still don't think her financial issues didn't not end up mattering, may have turned off white college educateds.
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« Reply #99 on: May 01, 2019, 05:07:19 PM »

Abrams had damaged herself significantly first with her conspiratorial assertion that she actually won the election. And then by going so national in liberal circles and shedding any kind of bipartisan image she was trying to sell in '18. People also forget she carried quite a bit of baggage as a candidate I still don't think her financial issues didn't not end up mattering, may have turned off white college educateds.

Yeah, I dont think any of this stuff is really true. If voters dont factor in the longest government shutdown into their judgement 2 weeks after it ends, no one is going to remember that Abrams made "conspiratorial assertions" or "shed any kind of bipartisan image(?)".
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