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Question: Which political party do you trust more on national security?
American: Democrats   -34 (70.8%)
American: Republicans   -12 (25%)
Not an American   -2 (4.2%)
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« on: January 20, 2019, 01:01:33 pm »

A relevant question in light of Trump's collusion (and possibly conspiracy) with Putin and the Russian government, and the Republican Party's seeming acceptance of it.   
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 01:19:15 pm »

The party under which Iran-Contra, 9/11, Tora Bora, and Iraq didn't happen.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2019, 02:35:25 pm »

These days Democrats for obvious reasons, though I would have said Republicans before 2016, and it will probably be them again if someone from the clueless anti-internationalist wing of the Democratic party gets in in 2020.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2019, 04:16:32 pm »

GOP
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2019, 04:26:08 pm »

The one that didn't overwhelmingly vote for the Patriot Act and its extension, the Authorisation for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists, multiple National Defense Authorisation Acts, and the recent $716 billion military budget

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2019, 10:26:58 pm »

These days Democrats for obvious reasons, though I would have said Republicans before 2016, and it will probably be them again if someone from the clueless anti-internationalist wing of the Democratic party gets in in 2020.

Not an american but I endorse this position
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2019, 09:17:11 pm »

It was the Republicans until 2016. Since then it's actually the Democrats. Bleh.
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2019, 07:59:11 pm »

It wasn't a Democratic President who ignored warnings about Al-qaeda planning to attack American targets
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2019, 04:56:24 pm »

Democrats now for obvious reasons. Pre-Trump I would have thought it was about a tie but probably would have said the Republicans if forced to choose.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2019, 10:47:34 pm »

I don't want to politicize security, but to answer the question.


Democrats, easy.
Democrats didn't sell weapons to Iran.
Democrats didn't arm Taliban in Afghanistan
There is more

EDIT: Yes I'm aware Democrats have done messed up things to, but they are more Trumpy examples as well.
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2019, 10:55:15 pm »

War and surveillance != strong national security.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2019, 11:03:24 pm »

It wasn't a Democratic President who ignored warnings about Al-qaeda planning to attack American targets

LOL, I love Landslide Lyndon-style sizzling burn responses on these.  A simple “Democrats” will do, bro.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2019, 11:04:53 pm »

I don't want to politicize security, but to answer the question.


Democrats, easy.
Democrats didn't sell weapons to Iran.
Democrats didn't arm Taliban in Afghanistan
There is more

The shipment of arms to Iran through Israel began almost immediately after the fall of the Shah in 1979 and continued for many years before Iran-Contra, the CIA provided aid to the Taliban in 1996, and under the Carter administration the CIA also funneled tens of millions of dollars to the Mujahideen
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2019, 10:05:07 am »

GOP all the way. Remember when Reagan killed Qaddafi's daughter on her wedding day? That's how you strike back against an enemy. No remorse.

The reports about Gaddaffi's daughter's death are generally assumed to be Libyan propaganda in an effort to discredit the U.S. air strike.

In any case, the Gaddafi daughter which supposedly was killed in the air strike was claimed to be an infant and hence couldn't have been killed on her wedding day.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8698804/Dental-records-for-Hana-Gaddafi-reopen-mystery-of-Muammar-Gaddafis-daughter.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/libya-video/8782588/Exclusive-Gaddafis-dead-daughter-Hana-alive-and-well-in-family-video.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/29/world/africa/29qaddafi.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/26/hana-gaddafi-daughter-mystery

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/09/hana-gaddafi-libyan-leader-daughter-alive-_n_922043.html?ec_carp=8710605976820775793

https://www.aim.org/aim-column/nbc%E2%80%99s-mitchell-regurgitates-gaddafi-lies/


It's somehow telling that proganada lies which were designed to make U.S. foreign policy look bad and evil are not only believed by you, but are also considered a reason to cheer. But I guess that makes you all the more THE archetypal Trump voter.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2019, 12:18:06 am »

It wasn't a Democratic President who ignored warnings about Al-qaeda planning to attack American targets

LOL, I love Landslide Lyndon-style sizzling burn responses on these.  A simple “Democrats” will do, bro.

He's right, ftr.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2019, 12:19:14 am »

The party under which Iran-Contra, 9/11, Tora Bora, and Iraq didn't happen.

This, plus having a treasonous president.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2019, 01:49:11 am »

The Prohibition Party
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2019, 04:44:03 am »

The one that isn't the Republicans, but as with all issues there is no "good" choice.
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