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Question: Who would be easier for Trump to beat
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« on: January 20, 2019, 08:02:42 PM »

I,d say Warren in spite of Harris,s baggage.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 08:08:20 PM »

Warren.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2019, 08:14:32 PM »

If I were Trump supporter I'd be dying for the Dems to nominate Warren.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2019, 09:16:52 PM »

Why is Elizabeth Warren supposedly such a weak candidate?
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2019, 09:44:36 PM »
« Edited: January 20, 2019, 10:21:28 PM by Big Abraham »

Harris actually. Warren has problems with authenticity, but I actually think Harris is worse in that respect, and she doesn't really have any issues that define her or inspire voters. That could change as things go on, but as it stands, Warren is in a stronger position
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2019, 10:24:49 PM »

Warren but Trump would defeat either easily.
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2019, 10:26:47 PM »

Its not gonna be an easy campaign, we dont know how the shutdown will end. The victor of the shutdown will have bragging rights.

But, Warren has been labeled by Trump
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2019, 11:42:54 PM »

Both would be pretty easy relatively for Trump but I would say Warren
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2019, 11:57:46 PM »

Trump would lose to Harris. I'm very uncomfortable with Warren being the nominee.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2019, 12:02:35 AM »

Harris.

Warren's a white you see. Also she energizes the base.

With Harris, better hope for some kind of Hillary-esque turnout in Miami-Dade combined with Gillum's Jacksonville...and Sinema's Maricopa Co., because that puts The Midwest back into play.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2019, 12:18:44 AM »

Trump would lose to Harris. I'm very uncomfortable with Warren being the nominee.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2019, 01:21:23 AM »

Harris is expecting to announce tomorrow her candidacy for Prez.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2019, 01:26:49 AM »

Harris.

Warren's a white you see. Also she energizes the base.

With Harris, better hope for some kind of Hillary-esque turnout in Miami-Dade combined with Gillum's Jacksonville...and Sinema's Maricopa Co., because that puts The Midwest back into play.

And Harris doesn't? Also why are we assuming we need Arizona and Florida to win the presidency. Arizona is not synonymous with Pennsylvania. Dumb take.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2019, 01:44:14 AM »

Harris.

Warren's a white you see. Also she energizes the base.

With Harris, better hope for some kind of Hillary-esque turnout in Miami-Dade combined with Gillum's Jacksonville...and Sinema's Maricopa Co., because that puts The Midwest back into play.

And Harris doesn't? Also why are we assuming we need Arizona and Florida to win the presidency. Arizona is not synonymous with Pennsylvania. Dumb take.

PA is not enough


Trump still wins 270-268 with the 2016 map - PA and MI. So the Dems have to win either AZ or WI to win the WH
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2019, 03:03:50 AM »

Harris.

Warren's a white you see. Also she energizes the base.

With Harris, better hope for some kind of Hillary-esque turnout in Miami-Dade combined with Gillum's Jacksonville...and Sinema's Maricopa Co., because that puts The Midwest back into play.

And Harris doesn't? Also why are we assuming we need Arizona and Florida to win the presidency. Arizona is not synonymous with Pennsylvania. Dumb take.

Not really, no. At least Warren has the whole "nevertheless, she persisted" thing going on.

We're not, we're assuming those are insurance in case Trump successfully holds WI/MI/PA again.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2019, 08:02:56 AM »

Everybody saying this candidate energizes the base and that one doesn't, but....do you guys really think the Democratic base would sit out the election regardless of the nominee and allow Trump 4 more years?

I think Trump energizes the Dem base more than any of the candidates that oppose him do.

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2019, 09:56:57 AM »

Everybody saying this candidate energizes the base and that one doesn't, but....do you guys really think the Democratic base would sit out the election regardless of the nominee and allow Trump 4 more years?

I think Trump energizes the Dem base more than any of the candidates that oppose him do.



Agreed.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2019, 10:42:03 AM »

Everybody saying this candidate energizes the base and that one doesn't, but....do you guys really think the Democratic base would sit out the election regardless of the nominee and allow Trump 4 more years?

I think Trump energizes the Dem base more than any of the candidates that oppose him do.

Pardon me if I don't trust the american electorate to vote against the buffoon no matter what, when we were all told, sometimes with one hundred percent certainty (Huff Post), that they would in 2016 and how it actually went. I personally know a democrat that would vote for Trump if Gabbard was the nominee, so yeah.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2019, 10:52:36 AM »

As a Trump voter, I hope for Warren. Harris, Booker and Castro wouldn't be too bad either, IMO.

Biden and Bullock scare me a bit.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2019, 11:23:16 AM »

Everybody saying this candidate energizes the base and that one doesn't, but....do you guys really think the Democratic base would sit out the election regardless of the nominee and allow Trump 4 more years?

I think Trump energizes the Dem base more than any of the candidates that oppose him do.



Precisely!  Everyone always overstates the importance of the individual names at the top of the tickets.  What will matter in 2020 isn't Trump vs. Warren or Trump vs. Harris....it's Republican vs. Democrat.

This obviously might not hold true if some out-of-the-mainstream name were nominated (Gabbard, for instance, or maybe Sanders), but for the most part, party is vastly more important than individual.
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2019, 11:48:14 AM »

Harris.

Warren's a white you see. Also she energizes the base.

With Harris, better hope for some kind of Hillary-esque turnout in Miami-Dade combined with Gillum's Jacksonville...and Sinema's Maricopa Co., because that puts The Midwest back into play.

And Harris doesn't? Also why are we assuming we need Arizona and Florida to win the presidency. Arizona is not synonymous with Pennsylvania. Dumb take.

Once more sh**t comes out about her time as Cali AG millennial/minority turnout might be depressed
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2019, 02:15:17 PM »

Harris.

Warren's a white you see. Also she energizes the base.

With Harris, better hope for some kind of Hillary-esque turnout in Miami-Dade combined with Gillum's Jacksonville...and Sinema's Maricopa Co., because that puts The Midwest back into play.

And Harris doesn't? Also why are we assuming we need Arizona and Florida to win the presidency. Arizona is not synonymous with Pennsylvania. Dumb take.

Once more sh**t comes out about her time as Cali AG millennial/minority turnout might be depressed

You're saying that because that's what you want to happen.
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2019, 03:35:57 PM »

Warren. Harris is a formidable candidate and he may lose in that scenario.
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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2019, 05:11:56 PM »

Everybody saying this candidate energizes the base and that one doesn't, but....do you guys really think the Democratic base would sit out the election regardless of the nominee and allow Trump 4 more years?

I think Trump energizes the Dem base more than any of the candidates that oppose him do.



All right, then put up Hillary Clinton and see how well that works out.

It's not even about energising "the base", by the way. It's independent voters too: they delivered us Trump in 2016 and they'd sure as hell do it again if they don't see anything great coming from the Democrats
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2019, 08:02:06 PM »

Warren might not be able to get out the person of color vote as well as Harris would, for that reason alone Warren would be easier to beat. Furthermore, Warren has been a bigger focal point of the right wing propaganda machine and is damaged much more than Harris is at this point in time.
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