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Question: Who do you trust the most ?
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« on: January 21, 2019, 10:15:24 AM »

Who do you trust the most ?
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2019, 10:44:27 AM »

Donald Trump.

But I hate elites. They all live in upscale areas, they believe their college degrees make them special (which they don't) and they look down on average middle Americans.

They all live in the same liberal cocktail circuit. I loved watching Donald Trump call them "absolute scum" and then watch America elect him President.;

I enjoy seeing people I don't like put in their place.

As Michael Moore of all people said, "The enemy of my enemy is who I vote for."

If the majority of people who hate Trump are people I dislike, I like him more.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2019, 11:17:49 AM »



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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2019, 11:30:04 AM »

You're misinterpreting "elites" from "rich people".

As liberal professor Joan Williams said:

“Most working-class people have little contact with the truly rich,” Williams explains, “but they suffer class affronts from professionals every day: the doctor who unthinkingly patronizes the medical technician, the harried office worker who treats the security guard as invisible, the overbooked business traveler who snaps at the TSA agent.”

Williams chastises the professional-managerial elite, or PME, for the sort of thoughtless and condescending behavior that breeds animosity among the white working class, or WWC, as she dubbed it in the post-election Harvard Business Review essay that inspired this book (apparently you’re not an official socioeconomic segment without an acronym). The president, for one, knows better. “Brashly wealthy celebrities epitomize the fantasy of being wildly rich while losing none of your working-class cred,” Williams writes. “Trump epitomizes this.”
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2019, 12:11:22 PM »

I agree Reaganfan that condescending to people of lower class stature is wrong. Like immigrants for example. Treating them like a bunch of murders and rapists because they overstayed work visas or are seeking asylum from the violence back home isn’t right and very snarky.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2019, 12:27:38 PM »

I agree Reaganfan that condescending to people of lower class stature is wrong. Like immigrants for example. Treating them like a bunch of murders and rapists because they overstayed work visas or are seeking asylum from the violence back home isn’t right and very snarky.

One big difference. One group are American citizens. The other isn't.

You on the left have no sense of country, nation, borders, laws, tribalism.

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2019, 12:34:41 PM »

Where's the "neither" option?
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2019, 12:35:06 PM »

I agree Reaganfan that condescending to people of lower class stature is wrong. Like immigrants for example. Treating them like a bunch of murders and rapists because they overstayed work visas or are seeking asylum from the violence back home isn’t right and very snarky.

One big difference. One group are American citizens. The other isn't.

You on the left have no sense of country, nation, borders, laws, tribalism.


Weird cause Native Americans are citizens yet you are completely defending those racist kids, heck women are citizens and you were disgusting in the metoo threads. Face it you are a complete hypocrite who will sing this sad song of the WWC being condescended too by educated “elitist” yet when it comes to minorities, women, immigrants, lgbtq, and Muslims you’re the most condescending person in the world
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2019, 12:42:19 PM »

I trust the Fourth Estate over Trump (and any of his lackeys) any day of the week.  And unlike the Commander-in-Chief, they at least have the humility to admit when they make a mistake.  I appreciate that. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2019, 01:10:05 PM »

Donald Trump.

But I hate elites. They all live in upscale areas, they believe their college degrees make them special (which they don't) and they look down on average middle Americans.

They all live in the same liberal cocktail circuit. I loved watching Donald Trump call them "absolute scum" and then watch America elect him President.;

I enjoy seeing people I don't like put in their place.

As Michael Moore of all people said, "The enemy of my enemy is who I vote for."

If the majority of people who hate Trump are people I dislike, I like him more.

Oh, triggered.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2019, 05:00:47 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2019, 05:11:05 PM »

Other was an option.  24 people so far picked the Donald and the Mainstream Media options, so 24 people cannot be trusted for accurate information. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2019, 05:12:09 PM »

I agree Reaganfan that condescending to people of lower class stature is wrong. Like immigrants for example. Treating them like a bunch of murders and rapists because they overstayed work visas or are seeking asylum from the violence back home isn’t right and very snarky.

One big difference. One group are American citizens. The other isn't.

You on the left have no sense of country, nation, borders, laws, tribalism.


Weird cause Native Americans are citizens yet you are completely defending those racist kids, heck women are citizens and you were disgusting in the metoo threads. Face it you are a complete hypocrite who will sing this sad song of the WWC being condescended too by educated “elitist” yet when it comes to minorities, women, immigrants, lgbtq, and Muslims you’re the most condescending person in the world

The Native American story was demonstrated to be false.  You shouldn't have trusted the mainstream media. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2019, 06:03:45 PM »

I agree Reaganfan that condescending to people of lower class stature is wrong. Like immigrants for example. Treating them like a bunch of murders and rapists because they overstayed work visas or are seeking asylum from the violence back home isn’t right and very snarky.

One big difference. One group are American citizens. The other isn't.

You on the left have no sense of country, nation, borders, laws, tribalism.


Weird cause Native Americans are citizens yet you are completely defending those racist kids, heck women are citizens and you were disgusting in the metoo threads. Face it you are a complete hypocrite who will sing this sad song of the WWC being condescended too by educated “elitist” yet when it comes to minorities, women, immigrants, lgbtq, and Muslims you’re the most condescending person in the world

The Native American story was demonstrated to be false.  You shouldn't have trusted the mainstream media. 
Except it wasn’t. Sorry but the black Israelites being jerks doesn’t justify those kids being aholes to Philips no matter how much your racist butt what’s it too
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2019, 07:13:11 PM »

You're misinterpreting "elites" from "rich people".

As liberal professor Joan Williams said:

“Most working-class people have little contact with the truly rich,” Williams explains, “but they suffer class affronts from professionals every day: the doctor who unthinkingly patronizes the medical technician, the harried office worker who treats the security guard as invisible, the overbooked business traveler who snaps at the TSA agent.”

Williams chastises the professional-managerial elite, or PME, for the sort of thoughtless and condescending behavior that breeds animosity among the white working class, or WWC, as she dubbed it in the post-election Harvard Business Review essay that inspired this book (apparently you’re not an official socioeconomic segment without an acronym). The president, for one, knows better. “Brashly wealthy celebrities epitomize the fantasy of being wildly rich while losing none of your working-class cred,” Williams writes. “Trump epitomizes this.”


That's your definition of 'elite.'  Others are free to disagree with you.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2019, 07:46:29 PM »

I would literally Trust a three card Monte player over Trump.
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2019, 08:19:14 PM »

Easily the mainstream media. They aren't perfect, mind you, but they at least try to be as accurate and objective as possible unlike our President and the media outlets that serve as his propagandists who exist in their own reality.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2019, 09:58:03 PM »

Both have their own share of problems.

Trump is stuck in his own mindset and almost always disregards anything other people say which doesn't fit with that mindset.

The mainstream media is heavily influenced by corporations/establishment figures that they will often go out of their way to make their reporting favorable toward them and against anti-establishment figures/ideas.

Overall, if I had to pick one of these two sides, I'd go with the mainstream media, but if I could choose a third side, I'd go with non-mainstream media which emphasizes objectivity over so-called "neutrality."
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2019, 10:03:18 PM »

Neither
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2019, 10:54:28 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2019, 11:31:02 PM »

Both have their own share of problems.

Trump is stuck in his own mindset and almost always disregards anything other people say which doesn't fit with that mindset.

The mainstream media is heavily influenced by corporations/establishment figures that they will often go out of their way to make their reporting favorable toward them and against anti-establishment figures/ideas.

Overall, if I had to pick one of these two sides, I'd go with the mainstream media, but if I could choose a third side, I'd go with non-mainstream media which emphasizes objectivity over so-called "neutrality."
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2019, 11:47:47 PM »

I trust the MM more, in the same way that I think eating at McDonald's is healthier than eating out of the garbage.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2019, 12:59:24 AM »

The mainstream media is far too lax on trump
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2019, 01:02:07 AM »

The mainstream media does constant lies of omission, but doesn't actually lie for the most part.  Trump straight up lies to you.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2019, 02:44:06 AM »

I don't trust a man who has spoken ill of so many people and things and who has tied over 7,000 times in two years.

Journalists have overall done a fair job over the past years.
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