Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread

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Why can't Bernie just go away? He's not even a Democrat.

Anyways, I have still never heard an explanation as to why progressives want an 80+ year old to be President?

Because he’s the most left-wing major politician in this country, at least of those who are eligible to become President.

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National co-chairs announced: Nina Turner, Ro Khanna, Carmen Yulín Cruz, and Ben Cohen (of Ben and Jerry’s).

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Not going to lie, it looks like Bernie's momentum is unstoppable. That announcement couldn't have been more perfect. I still think Biden would edge him in a primary RN, but that could easily change

It's February

Yeah, Biden’s gearing up for a run and he very well may have an even better announcement.

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This egotistical boosting is why I detest the Sanders movement.  If they cared about the future of our nation they would say the same for several candidates running against Sanders. Oh no, we can't let the other slimy Neo-liberals get in our way, it's all King Bernie to the rescue, for he'll save us from the mercy of Trump.


https://twitter.com/lizcgoodwin/status/1125101962268008453

With the exception of Warren, the other candidates probably *aren’t* going to fundamentally transform the country, though. They’re just normal Democrats.

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This egotistical boosting is why I detest the Sanders movement.  If they cared about the future of our nation they would say the same for several candidates running against Sanders. Oh no, we can't let the other slimy Neo-liberals get in our way, it's all King Bernie to the rescue, for he'll save us from the mercy of Trump.


https://twitter.com/lizcgoodwin/status/1125101962268008453

With the exception of Warren, the other candidates probably *aren’t* going to fundamentally transform the country, though. They’re just normal Democrats.

Bernie and Warren are no different. Neither of them are going to transform the country given the current make up of congress.

By that standard, why have a primary at all, if no one’s going to be able to do anything with this Congress?

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https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1138808234645626880

Deplorable.

But right.

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https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1138808234645626880

Deplorable.

But right.

To annul a corrupt criminal's conviction because you agree with his policies? No, it never was.

Have you read the leaks?

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https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1141397029891039240?s=21

Interesting that the article talks about how broadly popular Warren’s ideas are as a way to appeal to moderates, but somehow Bernie’s apparently aren’t?

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https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1146060439811346434

Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!

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Warren is not a great debater & has never been.

This is laughable. Warren was built for the debate format and it's almost impossible to imagine her making the kind of campaign-ending mistakes that Sanders would need to regain the lead.

And it doesn't matter. You have more than 6 months. This is the same crop of people who started the Biden finished rhetoric before be jumped in, the Warren finished rhetoric after the Native American thing.

It's true that the campaign is very fluid at this point. That doesn't change the fact that the major inflection points between now and Iowa will be the debates, which Warren will not slip up in. So the question remains where Sanders is going to regain his momentum.

No1 cares. Polls this early are meaningless unless Sanders tanks into 5-7% odd. Many of the polls are under sampling young voters or are over sampling people who watched the debates. Sanders has the money & field support to drive a much higher turnout than what polls predict. You get to December/January' & if Sanders is still jot within 5-6% from No.1 guy, then there must be something to worry.

Even if polls were underestimating support for Sanders, his 5% drop from May to July would still be significant and real.

IMO, the Sanders camp's unwillingness to look numbers in the face and pivot accordingly (but ... muh Michigan primary) is going to be his downfall and the only question left is whether he spits in the face of his own movement by staying in the race and denying Warren the support she'll need to cinch the nomination. Which would be hilarious in its own way for sure.

The "over sampling people who watched the debates" is especially funny. Do you really think that the debate watchers are taking cues from those who didn't watch? It works the other way around.

I actually agree that if Sanders is within 5-6% of first place in Iowa, people should be worried. It's a testament to his weak position now that even that scenario seems more and more unlikely.

Warren as a debater - What amazing debate did Warren participate in? She runs from the media, was mediocre in the 1st debate & was mediocre in her Senate debates. There is no proof whatsoever that she is a good debater.  Sanders on the other hand went toe to toe with Clinton & Ted Cruz & did as good as them.

Polls - When I mean oversampling, I don't mean intentional but incidental oversampling. That can't be denied with anyone with any shred of intelligence. Sanders is polling substantially ahead of Warren & Harris in the WaPo & Reuters polls (both of whim are reputed polls) while Warren & Harris are ahead in other polls. The polls are fluid depending on who are being polled & the sample size is inadequate to have any definite opinion.

In terms of the polls, you had O'Rourke @ 10-15% first, then Harris, then Buttigieg & then Biden @ 35-40% in some polls. Warren is the new flavour of the quarter which is what is happening. You have 1 candidate rising & polling around 12-15% or higher & they can sustain themselves for 3-4 months @ best. There are only 2 candidates who have consistently polled above 12-15% in most polls - Sanders & Biden. Warren has hit even 5% & there are major elect-ability concerns for her regarding the General Election.

It is pretty idiotic to make these kind of early judgements. Until & unless Warren beats Sanders' in polls by 5-6% atleast consistently for a period of 6 months, it is too early to get on the Warren bandwagon. I still think Warren will poll under 15% in Iowa & will drop out after NH. She has no path to the nomination. If Sanders falls, the rest of his support will go to a mixture of Biden, Harris & Warren with no candidate gaining significantly. If anything Kamala Harris will will be the undisputed front-runner in the Ultimate 2 person race between Harris & Warren. Warren has no chance.

Sanders on the other hand has the most committed supporters & the highest floor & is unlikely to go below a certain threshold. Sanders also has the highest number of grassroots donors, the highest number of volunteers & due to his key constituency of young people with typical low turnout in the polls & independents, he is significantly expected to out-perform polls.

If Sanders couldn’t beat Clinton, what makes you think he can beat Harris?

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The stuff being said about Sanders/Biden swing voters also applies to Warren/Harris swing voters, another real group which initially seems bizarre based on how the candidates are positioning themselves.

Is that really bizarre? Harris has been positioning herself as the second or third most left wing candidate. She was the only one who put her hand up alongside Sanders when the candidates were asked if their healthcare would get rid of private insurance!

And then said she misheard the question (to be fair, it was poorly worded) and that her plan wouldn’t do that.

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CNN says Bernie's campaign has been considering attacking Warren tonight, on the topic of electability.

Lots of potential for that to go both greatly and horribly for Bernie.

Hasn’t done it so far.

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https://twitter.com/Zebop/status/1156360829354356736

Why shouldn’t he?

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https://twitter.com/Zebop/status/1156360829354356736

Why shouldn’t he?

It makes him look like an old angry white man.

Should he not be angry?

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Feel the fail

https://twitter.com/EmmaKinery/status/1170771587194392578?s=20

Meanwhile he’s in a close second in the latest poll.