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« on: November 05, 2005, 09:35:48 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2005, 09:49:38 PM »

Truman would certainly win this election. Im not good with maps that far back though. Sad
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2005, 11:14:47 PM »

Where did this one come from?  The idea of Hoover running again 20 years after getting beat down makes me laugh.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2005, 11:05:52 AM »

Hoover and Truman would never have ran against each other.

But Hoover would have won due to Democratic fatigue and the stalemate in Korea. Remember, this is the election where Eisenhower, a political novice who didn't care about government, defeated an articulate and inteligent Democratic candidate.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2005, 11:10:44 AM »

Hoover and Truman would never have ran against each other.

But Hoover would have won due to Democratic fatigue and the stalemate in Korea. Remember, this is the election where Eisenhower, a political novice who didn't care about government, defeated an articulate and inteligent Democratic candidate.

After the great depression, Hoover's chances of ever winning a national election again fell to 0%.  He'd even have lost to Henry Wallace.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2005, 11:15:56 AM »

Hoover and Truman would never have ran against each other.

But Hoover would have won due to Democratic fatigue and the stalemate in Korea. Remember, this is the election where Eisenhower, a political novice who didn't care about government, defeated an articulate and inteligent Democratic candidate.

After the great depression, Hoover's chances of ever winning a national election again fell to 0%.  He'd even have lost to Henry Wallace.

You know that's rap. He was very well respected after World War II because he once again saved half the world from starvation. It was Belgium all over again for him.
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2005, 12:14:09 PM »

Hoover and Truman would never have ran against each other.

But Hoover would have won due to Democratic fatigue and the stalemate in Korea. Remember, this is the election where Eisenhower, a political novice who didn't care about government, defeated an articulate and inteligent Democratic candidate.

After the great depression, Hoover's chances of ever winning a national election again fell to 0%.  He'd even have lost to Henry Wallace.

You know that's rap. He was very well respected after World War II because he once again saved half the world from starvation. It was Belgium all over again for him.

Well respected doesn't mean that they'd elect him president again.

If you polled a favorability rating of Jimmy Carter right now, you'd probably get high favorables.  But would he win an election?  Not a chance.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2005, 12:26:18 PM »

Hoover and Truman would never have ran against each other.

But Hoover would have won due to Democratic fatigue and the stalemate in Korea. Remember, this is the election where Eisenhower, a political novice who didn't care about government, defeated an articulate and inteligent Democratic candidate.

After the great depression, Hoover's chances of ever winning a national election again fell to 0%.  He'd even have lost to Henry Wallace.

You know that's rap. He was very well respected after World War II because he once again saved half the world from starvation. It was Belgium all over again for him.

Well respected doesn't mean that they'd elect him president again.

If you polled a favorability rating of Jimmy Carter right now, you'd probably get high favorables.  But would he win an election?  Not a chance.

Carter would probabaly defeat the currently 38% approval ratings of Bush, as Hoover would have defeated the 21% approval rated Truman.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2005, 12:45:28 PM »

Hoover and Truman would never have ran against each other.

But Hoover would have won due to Democratic fatigue and the stalemate in Korea. Remember, this is the election where Eisenhower, a political novice who didn't care about government, defeated an articulate and inteligent Democratic candidate.

Yes, but Eisenhower was a national hero.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2005, 12:50:05 PM »

Hoover and Truman would never have ran against each other.

But Hoover would have won due to Democratic fatigue and the stalemate in Korea. Remember, this is the election where Eisenhower, a political novice who didn't care about government, defeated an articulate and inteligent Democratic candidate.

After the great depression, Hoover's chances of ever winning a national election again fell to 0%.  He'd even have lost to Henry Wallace.

You know that's rap. He was very well respected after World War II because he once again saved half the world from starvation. It was Belgium all over again for him.

Well respected doesn't mean that they'd elect him president again.

If you polled a favorability rating of Jimmy Carter right now, you'd probably get high favorables.  But would he win an election?  Not a chance.

Carter would probabaly defeat the currently 38% approval ratings of Bush, as Hoover would have defeated the 21% approval rated Truman.

What were Hoover's approval ratings when he left office?  Of course, we don't know because there was no correct method of polling back then but it's probably in Bob Taft territory.

Truman would have won by 10%, assuming: 1) no third party candidate, and 2) there would be low turnout.

Carter would most certainly lose to Bush by a wide, wide margin.
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2005, 05:51:02 PM »

Hoover and Truman would never have ran against each other.

But Hoover would have won due to Democratic fatigue and the stalemate in Korea. Remember, this is the election where Eisenhower, a political novice who didn't care about government, defeated an articulate and inteligent Democratic candidate.

So was Hoover.

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Harold Stassen and Bob Taft led Truman in 1952's Gallup Polls, so Hoover could have defeated him.

Yes, but Eisenhower was a national hero.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2005, 08:15:04 PM »


Who would you vote for A18?
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2005, 08:17:10 PM »

I would consider voting for Truman in this instance.  He'd probably win too.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2005, 08:19:52 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2005, 02:47:08 PM »


Hoover wouldn't lose Cali.  Back then the west coast was considerably Republican.
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2005, 02:21:08 PM »


Remember that Cali stilll had a lot of transplants from the Great Depression who would be mad at Hoover.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2005, 03:41:02 PM »


Remember that Cali stilll had a lot of transplants from the Great Depression who would be mad at Hoover.

Interestingly, most of those "Okies" are incredibly Republican today.
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2005, 10:26:04 PM »

In 1952, the Democrats have won every Presidential election for 20 years, since 1932.  The nation wants a change.  Former President Herbert Hoover has a new respectability.  The people are tiring of President Harry Truman.  He has been President for almost 8 years.  The nation isn't about to give him 12 years.

Hoover wins every state Thomas Dewey won in 1948, plus adds 3 states that Dewey lost by the narrowest of margins in 1948, California, Illinois, Ohio. 

The election is very close, but Hoover pulls out a narrow victory.

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