Virginia megathread

[Technocracy Timmy]

Thankfully in these trying times we can look towards the White House for greener pastures of human behavior.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

What the hell is a homephobe?

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What the hell is a homephobe?

Someone who is voluntarily homeless.

[Storr]

What the hell is a homephobe?

Someone who is voluntarily homeless.

Or maybe they just prefer apartments?

[Zaybay]

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1092868291566157825

[emailking]

So it looks like there is more to it? Holy Christ...

What I just don't understand is why don't victims report immediately?

Because for many victims, who may already be traumatized, that is a very daunting and scary prospect, and it's easier to just do nothing.

Even if you take all that away, an objective assessment may find that it's in your personal best interest not to report. Depending on who it is, there could be backlash. But even if everybody believes you, there is a stigma associated with having been assaulted.

[henster]

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1092868291566157825

The accuser is doing her best to discredit herself, leaking to a shady RW website that already took down another Dem. Then having clowns like Wohl get involved, I just can’t see this as anything other than a hit job at this point.

[cinyc]

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1092868291566157825

The accuser is doing her best to discredit herself, leaking to a shady RW website that already took down another Dem. Then having clowns like Wohl get involved, I just can’t see this as anything other than a hit job at this point.

I think you’re assuming way too much. There is zero evidence that the accuser leaked the post to any website - after all, she went to the MSM first. The info was already out there. And there is zero evidence that the accuser has anything to do with Wohl’s bounty. Internet “celebrities” can do things on their own, you know.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1092868291566157825

The accuser is doing her best to discredit herself, leaking to a shady RW website that already took down another Dem. Then having clowns like Wohl get involved, I just can’t see this as anything other than a hit job at this point.

This is perhaps the least empathetic post I have seen thus far.

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I don't know how you expect her to suddenly get a press conference when mainstream media doesn't care about her or some random state official. As such, she mostly lives with it since it is not a notable newsworthy figure she has to deal with, and there is no way to get it out there. She has a private facebook account, so nobody knows if she has mentioned her own experiences. Her whole career is literally gender studies and sexual assault seminars, so I'd wager it's more likely than not she has at least spoken about it in generic terms in some arena. But it's not a stain if she didn't. Time may tell.

She did not ask these Twitter clowns to get involved. She really didn't even leak to the other source, who received the source from a 'private Facebook'. All she did was give them permission to post it. What was she supposed to do? No other source would take her seriously, and you literally are asking for her to get her message out by any means possible. But now that's not sufficient.

[Alabama_Indy10]

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1092868291566157825

The accuser is doing her best to discredit herself, leaking to a shady RW website that already took down another Dem. Then having clowns like Wohl get involved, I just can’t see this as anything other than a hit job at this point.

Was the Northam incident a hit job? Should he still sue for libel?

[Technocracy Timmy]

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1092868291566157825

The accuser is doing her best to discredit herself, leaking to a shady RW website that already took down another Dem. Then having clowns like Wohl get involved, I just can’t see this as anything other than a hit job at this point.

Exactly right. The liberal California DNC attendee woman behind the accusations is secretly conspiring with right wing goofballs on twitter to dismantle the lieutenant governor of Virginia.

Amazing thought process.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1092868291566157825

The accuser is doing her best to discredit herself, leaking to a shady RW website that already took down another Dem. Then having clowns like Wohl get involved, I just can’t see this as anything other than a hit job at this point.

Exactly right. The liberal California DNC attendee woman behind the accusations is secretly conspiring with right wing goofballs on twitter to dismantle the lieutenant governor of Virginia.

Amazing thought process.

This.

[kyc0705]

What I just don't understand is why don't victims report immediately?

Unfortunately, I speak from personal experience when I say that often, it's absolutely not that simple. At all.

If you know who the person who assaulted you—and the vast majority of victims of sexual assault were assaulted by someone they personally knew—you worry about what other people who know both of you will say, and that they won't ever believe you, that they'll insist that the person they know and love could never do something like that.

If the assault was anything less outwardly visible than the way that the culture tells you it's "supposed" to be—society has traditionally been stuck in the mindset that rape can only mean an armed stranger ambushing you in a dark alley—you fear that you misread the situation somehow, that it couldn't possibly be as bad as your mind is recalling it.

And I'm a guy. I can't even imagine how awful it must be to feel the extra scrutiny and dismissal that women face when they come forward. I've never doubted the credibility of an allegation solely on the caveat that the assault was said to have happened years ago. It sticks with you forever, it bounces around in your mind. And you hope that it will somehow just go away if you try to ignore it, but of course, it never does.

[Technocracy Timmy]

https://twitter.com/WVUCavalier/status/1092246798436102146

All the knives are coming out.

[Dr. Arch]

https://twitter.com/WVUCavalier/status/1092246798436102146

All the knives are coming out.

What absurdity this has turned into.

[Technocracy Timmy]

Commonwealth Catfighting is proving to be a great reality tv show. They deserve an Emmy!

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

https://twitter.com/WVUCavalier/status/1092246798436102146

All the knives are coming out.

Even if this does turn out to be true, I called people that in middle school and never would’ve even considered the possibility it could mean anything other than “loser.”  I’d never use the word today now that I know how hurtful it is to members of the LGBT community, but I don’t think using the word in the early to mid 2000s automatically makes someone a homophobe.  Granted, I’m a cisgendered heterosexual whose prejudice against transgender folks was something that took a good eight years to truly overcome, but that’s my perspective.  Take that for what it’s worth.  

Regardless, this certainly isn’t even remotely as bad as what Northam or Fairfax [setting aside the credibility questions here] and the idea that Herring should step down over it is silly.  Also this sounds like a random some dude, not really sure why I should take him at his word.

[Badger]

https://twitter.com/WVUCavalier/status/1092246798436102146

All the knives are coming out.

Even if this does turn out to be true, I called people that in middle school and never would’ve even considered the possibility it could mean anything other than “loser.”  I’d never use the word today now that I know how hurtful it is to members of the LGBT community, but I don’t think using the word in the early to mid 2000s automatically makes someone a homophobe.  Granted, I’m a cisgendered heterosexual whose prejudice against transgender folks was something that took a good eight years to truly overcome, but that’s my perspective.  Take that for what it’s worth.  

Regardless, this certainly isn’t even remotely as bad as what Northam or Fairfax [setting aside the credibility questions here] and the idea that Herring should step down over it is silly.  Also this sounds like a random some dude, not really sure why I should take him at his word.

I thought the exact same thing about using the term in Middle School. In the early 80s it was ubiquitous. And usually it was a generic designation of being a loser, weird, a******, whatever. Still hateful and would never repeat it today, same as you.

But that said, Mark Herring was hardly in Middle School. He was a candidate for State Attorney General.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

https://twitter.com/WVUCavalier/status/1092246798436102146

All the knives are coming out.

Even if this does turn out to be true, I called people that in middle school and never would’ve even considered the possibility it could mean anything other than “loser.”  I’d never use the word today now that I know how hurtful it is to members of the LGBT community, but I don’t think using the word in the early to mid 2000s automatically makes someone a homophobe.  Granted, I’m a cisgendered heterosexual whose prejudice against transgender folks was something that took a good eight years to truly overcome, but that’s my perspective.  Take that for what it’s worth.  

Regardless, this certainly isn’t even remotely as bad as what Northam or Fairfax [setting aside the credibility questions here] and the idea that Herring should step down over it is silly.  Also this sounds like a random some dude, not really sure why I should take him at his word.

I thought the exact same thing about using the term in Middle School. In the early 80s it was ubiquitous. And usually it was a generic designation of being a loser, weird, a******, whatever. Still hateful and would never repeat it today, same as you.

But that said, Mark Herring was hardly in Middle School. He was a candidate for State Attorney General.

He was actually a member of the Loudon County Board of Supervisors at the time, but point taken.  Even so, I don’t think this is bad enough *if true* [which is far from certain] to warrant more than an apology.

[Sir Tiki]

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https://www.newcanaannewsonline.com/news/education/article/Virginia-lieutenant-governor-s-accuser-consults-13589960.php

[Frodo]

Well, thank goodness it is only February.  By the time November rolls around, all this should blow over, and hopefully not impact our chances of winning control of both chambers of the General Assembly for the first time in twenty years.  

[Brittain33]

In 2003? That just made him a moderate Democrat.

[lfromnj]

Well, thank goodness it is only January.  By the time November rolls around, all this should blow over, and hopefully not impact our chances of winning control of both senate seats of the MO senate seats for the first time in twelve years.

[Zaybay]

I seriously have no idea whats going on.

https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1092943819694370816

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/CarmenMForman/status/1092950228137795584