Is Beto O'Rourke closer to Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders on political spectrum?

[UWS]

According to you, is Beto O'Rourke closer to Joe Biden (centre-left) or Bernie Sanders (socialist) on the political spectrum?

[History505]

Much closer to Biden.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Biden.

[krb08]

I don't see how he's closer to Biden. Biden doesn't want Medicare for all, he doesn't want legal recreational marijuana, he's not open to abolishing ICE. Both O'Rourke and Sanders are for all of those things.

Can someone explain to me how the majority of his positions are closer to Biden than Sanders? It makes no sense.

[😥]

Biden

[courts]

biden going by voting record

[TML]

I don't see how he's closer to Biden. Biden doesn't want Medicare for all, he doesn't want legal recreational marijuana, he's not open to abolishing ICE. Both O'Rourke and Sanders are for all of those things.

Can someone explain to me how the majority of his positions are closer to Biden than Sanders? It makes no sense.

Here's what turns progressives off about Beto:

-He voted to deregulate Wall Street on a number of occasions.
-He voted to allow Obama to fast-track TPP (pro-free trade, which made the Texas AFL-CIO reluctant to endorse him initially).
-He voted against restrictions on oil/gas drilling in the Gulf of Mexico (not very pro-environment).
-He voted to support Israel and has refused to call out its treatment of Palestinians.

All of the above are positions which Sanders would not take, but which Biden might take if he is paid enough to do so.

[Storr]

Biden, of course.

[Mr. Smith]

Biden.

[Shadows]

Biden I think is more conservative than beto. Beto is somewhere between Sanders & Biden but leaning more towards Biden. In many areas Beto is notably to the left of Biden but will ideally be placed between the two.

[Big Abraham]

biden going by voting record

This. And this is what matters

[Adam Griffin]

His DW-NOMINATE voting score puts him ever so slightly to the right of even Biden.

[Big Abraham]

His DW-NOMINATE voting score puts him ever so slightly to the right of even Biden.

Yeah but that also puts Booker to the left of Sanders so it's hardly accurate

It also only uses a single-axis "liberal-conservative" scale which already means it's flawed to begin with

[Adam Griffin]

His DW-NOMINATE voting score puts him ever so slightly to the right of even Biden.

Yeah but that also puts Booker to the left of Sanders so it's hardly accurate

Not really, given that both Booker and Harris have been running for President ever since they landed in the Senate and have mostly voted accordingly, whereas Sanders' voting record has more nuance.

It also only uses a single-axis "liberal-conservative" scale which already means it's flawed to begin with

IMO there isn't a single multi-axis political compass rating system that's not as full of s[inks]t as any one dimensional variant

[Big Abraham]

IMO there isn't a single multi-axis political compass rating system that's not as full of s[inks]t as any one dimensional variant

What I meant by that is assuming "liberal" is left-wing and "conservative" is right-wing.

Not really, given that both Booker and Harris have been running for President ever since they landed in the Senate and have mostly voted accordingly, whereas Sanders' voting record has more nuance.

Booker and Harris are to Sanders' right on nearly every issue, including health-care, foreign policy, and especially economics; Booker in particular is a full-fledged neoliberal in the mould of Murphy, to the right of Obama (who has himself very neoliberal), has a long record of defending private equity. Let's not be foolish here.

[Lambsbread]

Biden, but they're pretty far apart ideologically that most mainstream Democrats are going to be closer to Biden than Bernie.