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« Reply #475 on: February 25, 2020, 01:32:54 PM »

She has to, America is ready for another female Veep. Warren is a socialist and Baldwin will compensate Senate majority. Teachers Union is a powerful group and will insist on Bernie and Klobuchar ticket. That's why she will win her homestate MN. Stacy Abrams can be UN secretary like Susan and Condi Rice

What in the world qualifies Stacy Abrams to be UN secretary?
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« Reply #476 on: February 25, 2020, 01:55:30 PM »

North Dakota has to be her best bet to win a state other than Minnesota, right?
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« Reply #477 on: February 25, 2020, 03:35:29 PM »

North Dakota has to be her best bet to win a state other than Minnesota, right?

Probably but its a whopping 14 delegates.
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« Reply #478 on: February 26, 2020, 12:09:44 PM »


I'm just sorry that Amy is lagging behind all those old folks who have so much baggage. She looks presidential. She wears clothes that are respectful of the office. She sounds presidential.

Elizabeth Warren wears the same thing every single day, a black leotard. She only changes the color of her coat. She looks like she has just come from the gym. She even wears tennis shoes at times.

The men, of course, wear their suits and ties and all look very distinguished. Except for Yang, his "no tie" look was very disrespectful in my opinion.

Everything about Amy suggests "success", from her look to her speech to her actions. She is a very busy woman who gets things done. We don't need a rock star TV personality as President. (Or a criminal.) We need someone like Amy, but I maintain people aren't ready to put a female in office as President. Even old old men and a gay guy are ahead of her in the polls and the voting. Sigh.
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« Reply #479 on: February 26, 2020, 06:30:38 PM »

I'm just sorry that Amy is lagging behind all those old folks who have so much baggage. She looks presidential. She wears clothes that are respectful of the office. She sounds presidential.

Elizabeth Warren wears the same thing every single day, a black leotard. She only changes the color of her coat. She looks like she has just come from the gym. She even wears tennis shoes at times.

The men, of course, wear their suits and ties and all look very distinguished. Except for Yang, his "no tie" look was very disrespectful in my opinion.

Everything about Amy suggests "success", from her look to her speech to her actions. She is a very busy woman who gets things done. We don't need a rock star TV personality as President. (Or a criminal.) We need someone like Amy, but I maintain people aren't ready to put a female in office as President. Even old old men and a gay guy are ahead of her in the polls and the voting. Sigh.
Who cares what a Presidental candidate looks, as we have f***ing furries.
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« Reply #480 on: February 26, 2020, 10:33:15 PM »

The men, of course, wear their suits and ties and all look very distinguished. Except for Yang, his "no tie" look was very disrespectful in my opinion.

More evidence that this country didn't deserve him.
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« Reply #481 on: February 27, 2020, 06:35:07 PM »

Fox News Klobuchar townhall on now
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« Reply #482 on: February 27, 2020, 06:40:04 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.
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« Reply #483 on: February 27, 2020, 07:29:27 PM »

I'm just sorry that Amy is lagging behind all those old folks who have so much baggage. She looks presidential. She wears clothes that are respectful of the office. She sounds presidential.

Elizabeth Warren wears the same thing every single day, a black leotard. She only changes the color of her coat. She looks like she has just come from the gym. She even wears tennis shoes at times.

The men, of course, wear their suits and ties and all look very distinguished. Except for Yang, his "no tie" look was very disrespectful in my opinion.

Everything about Amy suggests "success", from her look to her speech to her actions. She is a very busy woman who gets things done. We don't need a rock star TV personality as President. (Or a criminal.) We need someone like Amy, but I maintain people aren't ready to put a female in office as President. Even old old men and a gay guy are ahead of her in the polls and the voting. Sigh.
Who cares what a Presidental candidate looks, as we have f***ing furries.


Looks matter. Are you more inclined to listen to a dirty disheveled person walking down the street, or the guy wearing a suit and tie? Or the female wearing a business outfit and holding a briefcase?

Especially as the President of the United States, looks matter.
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« Reply #484 on: February 27, 2020, 07:31:06 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She is the best person for the job. That's why she's still in it.

Why is Steyer still in it? Why is Bloomberg in it at all, trying to buy his way through?

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« Reply #485 on: February 27, 2020, 07:33:58 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She is the best person for the job. That's why she's still in it.

Why is Steyer still in it? Why is Bloomberg in it at all, trying to buy his way through?



I think she'd make an excellent president, but she failed to make her mark and has no path to winning. Steyer and Bloomberg should not be in either.
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« Reply #486 on: February 27, 2020, 07:37:49 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She is the best person for the job. That's why she's still in it.

Why is Steyer still in it? Why is Bloomberg in it at all, trying to buy his way through?



I think she'd make an excellent president, but she failed to make her mark and has no path to winning. Steyer and Bloomberg should not be in either.
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« Reply #487 on: February 27, 2020, 11:43:56 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She is the best person for the job. That's why she's still in it.

Why is Steyer still in it? Why is Bloomberg in it at all, trying to buy his way through?



I think she'd make an excellent president, but she failed to make her mark and has no path to winning. Steyer and Bloomberg should not be in either.

Here's another reason why Amy should not quit yet. As you know, there has never been a female President. The longer Amy and also Warren stay in the race, the more people get used to the idea of a female as President of the country. Maybe it's selfish...call it what you will, but I'll be danged if a woman shouldn't be President THIS time. I don't think Bernie has what it takes.
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« Reply #488 on: February 28, 2020, 12:24:01 PM »


I saw this last night. I think she didn't do so well during the abortion questions.

The pro-life Democrat in the audience asked what Klobuchar would do for the rights of the unborn. Klobuchar basically dismissed it, saying, "Let me be clear, I am pro-choice. I will protect a woman's right to choose ... there are can be pro-life Democrats, just as there can be pro-choice Republicans. But understand that I am pro-choice, and we do not agree on this."

Klobuchar basically gave nothing to the pro-life woman who asked the question. I think Klobuchar should have said something along the lines of, "Pro-choice does not mean pro-abortion" or "I understand your concerns about the rights of the unborn. You may not agree with me on my pro-choice platforms, but you can agree with me on the idea of reducing unwanted pregnancies, thereby reducing the situations in which abortions becomes a consideration for people." etc.

Offer something to allay the woman's concerns about the rights of the unborn, instead of just dismissing it and saying "I totally disagree with you and feel the opposite way as you do on abortion."

The anchors asked her about the 20-weeks mark for abortions. They noted that only a few developed countries allow abortions after that time. She merely said, "ROE v. WADE!" instead of addressing how all the other developed countries have a different law, how science indicates that the baby in a fetus might actually feel pain at this time, etc.

Then she was asked, simply, "when does life begin?" She again said, "ROE v. WADE!" instead of answering the question and giving a definite time as to when she feels life begins.

She ought to understand that Roe v. Wade wasn't unanimous, it has been tweaked by a subsequent Supreme Court decisions, and the "viability" standard is dubious because a fetus's viability keeps getting pushed back to earlier time in a pregnancy as science develops.
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« Reply #489 on: February 28, 2020, 12:42:38 PM »

Klobuchar has in the past responded to the pro-life question by talking about her work on adoption. I wonder why she didn't take that tack this time?
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« Reply #490 on: February 29, 2020, 12:00:14 AM »

Klobuchar is campaigning in several Southern Super Tuesday states, but not in South Carolina:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/amy-klobuchar-south-carolina/index.html

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Klobuchar, who has built her campaign on reaching moderates and Midwesterners, had left the Palmetto State the morning after her CNN town hall on Wednesday night and has yet to return. Instead, she looked toward Super Tuesday, flying to North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee and Maine.

In the five days leading up to the South Carolina primary, the senator held only one public event: a grassroots rally on Wednesday inside a plush wedding venue at a historic site in Charleston. The event attracted fewer than 10 black people out of the roughly 100 who attended.

The turnout at that engagement, sources close to the campaign say, is a reality of a campaign not prepared to make inroads with voters who differ from their candidate -- namely people of color. The lack of vision to draw in diverse voters from the beginning, in part because of limited funds, led to a strategy that prioritized Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early states with predominantly white voters. That plan effectively abandoned the next two early states on the calendar, which have larger black and brown democratic populations: Nevada and South Carolina.
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« Reply #491 on: February 29, 2020, 09:18:46 AM »

After watching this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqu9srO6Vxs), my view of Amy Klobuchar has changed for the worse. She definitely should not be the Democratic presidential nominee, since she displayed a lack of judgment and a rush to ambition in this case.
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« Reply #492 on: February 29, 2020, 04:56:00 PM »

After watching this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqu9srO6Vxs), my view of Amy Klobuchar has changed for the worse. She definitely should not be the Democratic presidential nominee, since she displayed a lack of judgment and a rush to ambition in this case.
I'm only 8 minutes in so far (haven't reached the part about Klobuchar's prosecution yet). But the police didn't go to the convenience store where he said he was at the time of the murder and get surveillance tape or talk to the girl he said he was with? What kind of police work is that?! Also, the fact he could have taken a plea deal where he'd be out by now (to some kind of manslaughter charge, I assume) says to me he probably didn't do it.
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« Reply #493 on: February 29, 2020, 07:22:07 PM »

After watching this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqu9srO6Vxs), my view of Amy Klobuchar has changed for the worse. She definitely should not be the Democratic presidential nominee, since she displayed a lack of judgment and a rush to ambition in this case.

National coverage of the Burrell case has been a disgrace, and it's a good example of how easily a bad person can cast himself as a sympathetic victim by playing to a type.

Burrell's guilt is not in any real doubt and it's only the death of the prosecution's key witness that has allowed him to make himself into a cause:

Klobuchar already seems to be in real trouble with her scandal and the NAACP and BLM demanding she withdraw

(This is a cross-post from AAD)

The prosecution rarely deserves the benefit of the doubt in cases like this, but - as no one else is likely to look into the details unless Klobuchar surprises us all in Iowa - I feel obligated to report that it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Burrell's lawyer has even said that he doesn't blame Klobuchar for the conviction:

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He did not think, based on his review, that Ms. Klobuchar had done “anything specifically wrong.”

“I don’t think she had much to do with the case,” he said, noting that line prosecutors had handled it. “She stepped back and let them do what they were doing.”

“The one thing I would say about Senator Klobuchar is that I wish she would stop citing the Edwards case as an example of her being aggressive prosecutor.”

The AP piece takes such a polemical line against the prosecution that it's difficult to accept its narrative at face value. Burrell was found guilty in two jury trials and lost more appeals, yet we're supposed to accept that he wasn't on the murder scene because the other two gangsters involved in the killing now say that he was not there. That's an eyebrow-raising story, but no critique of the American justice system justifies that level of credulity. Come on.

Reporting on Burrell's second trial suggests a larger body of evidence than the more recent coverage admits to:

  • Eyewitness testimony from the shooting's intended target
  • Eyewitness testimony from his two accomplices (recanted after sentencing, when they had nothing to lose)
  • Information about Burrell's whereabouts provided by his mother, voluntarily, on the night of the shootings
  • A recording and transcript of a phone call from Burrell's cousin, in which Burell admits to his involvement in the shooting
  • Testimony from multiple fellow gang members
  • Testimony from a man who was incarcerated with Burrell, to whom Burell had described the shooting in detail

The article also ignores that Burrell's involvement had been suspected in several prior shootings.

But the most glaring omission is even more incredible: The prosecution's key witness was murdered before Burrell's second trial. How does that not merit a mention?

Unless there is more to this story, it reflects poorly on both the writer passing off her reality-optional activism as journalism and the equally cynical organizations using it to demand Klob's withdrawal from the presidential contest.

This is interesting. Well I might as well hold back and reserve my judgment on this matter.
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« Reply #494 on: February 29, 2020, 10:08:45 PM »

According to South Carolina exit polls, Klobuchar got 0% of the black vote.  Z-E-R-O
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« Reply #495 on: March 01, 2020, 04:39:33 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.
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« Reply #496 on: March 01, 2020, 06:41:21 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.

Buttigieg has already suspended his campaign.

I'm not convinced Bloomberg is done.
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« Reply #497 on: March 01, 2020, 06:47:40 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.

Buttigieg has already suspended his campaign.

I'm not convinced Bloomberg is done.

Same, also for her.

I suspect one of these two is gonna just be a protest run like Kasich's campaign. If Biden doesn't win Oklahoma, I suspect she will.

She'll probably be what Sanders was in 2016.
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« Reply #498 on: March 01, 2020, 06:52:05 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.

Buttigieg has already suspended his campaign.

I'm not convinced Bloomberg is done.

Same, also for her.

I suspect one of these two is gonna just be a protest run like Kasich's campaign. If Biden doesn't win Oklahoma, I suspect she will.

She'll probably be what Sanders was in 2016.

I would not be shocked if Bloomberg asks Klobuchar to be his VP candidate as a jolt to his campaign.
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« Reply #499 on: March 01, 2020, 07:13:18 PM »

Why is she still in this race? If she doesn't drop out after Super Tuesday she deserves a binder thrown at her.

She will, as will Warren. Buttigieg and Bloomberg, especially the latter, are question marks.

Buttigieg has already suspended his campaign.

I'm not convinced Bloomberg is done.

Same, also for her.

I suspect one of these two is gonna just be a protest run like Kasich's campaign. If Biden doesn't win Oklahoma, I suspect she will.

She'll probably be what Sanders was in 2016.

I would not be shocked if Bloomberg asks Klobuchar to be his VP candidate as a jolt to his campaign.

After all, eminently hatable scumbags with the charisma of a moldy wheel of cheese gotta stick together.
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