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« Reply #1400 on: November 06, 2019, 01:25:16 pm »

VP-Greens 2.0 sworn in today in Vorarlberg.

Markus Wallner (3rd from left) was re-elected as Governor with 26/36 votes in the state parliament (VP+Greens have 24 seats, so he got 2 additional votes from FP, SP or NEOS).

The new state government members (2x Greens on the left, 5x VP on the right):

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https://vorarlberg.orf.at/stories/3020445
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« Reply #1401 on: November 07, 2019, 02:32:12 pm »

Today, Krone and 24 newspapers speculated about possible cabinet posts in the coming Black-Green government, apparently based on some leaks coming out of the talks.

Depending on the final number of cabinet posts (between 12 and 18), the Greens will get between 3-5 ministries or posts (if theres a state secretary again).

Theres probably a big re-shuffling of responsibilities coming: a super ministry for ecology, environmental protection, transport, traffic, infrastructure etc. could be created for the Greens.

Social/Labour would also go to the Greens, maybe even Defense.

The important Green mayor of Innsbruck, Willi, today demanded that the Greens get the Finance Ministry, but I guess the VP will never give it to them ... (just like Interior).
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« Reply #1402 on: November 08, 2019, 12:23:55 am »

Today, Krone and 24 newspapers speculated about possible cabinet posts in the coming Black-Green government, apparently based on some leaks coming out of the talks.

Depending on the final number of cabinet posts (between 12 and 18), the Greens will get between 3-5 ministries or posts (if theres a state secretary again).

Theres probably a big re-shuffling of responsibilities coming: a super ministry for ecology, environmental protection, transport, traffic, infrastructure etc. could be created for the Greens.

Social/Labour would also go to the Greens, maybe even Defense.

The important Green mayor of Innsbruck, Willi, today demanded that the Greens get the Finance Ministry, but I guess the VP will never give it to them ... (just like Interior).

The "Standard" speculates that the Greens will get Environment/Infrastructure, Social/Labour and Education/Integration + 1 state secretary. Nobody really wants the chronically underfunded Defense Department, so that could stay with the VP (even though it is currently actually led by the Independent but Green-affiliated Thomas Starlinger).

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110800907/wer-unter-tuerkis-gruen-was-bekommen-koennte
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« Reply #1403 on: November 08, 2019, 02:44:07 pm »

All exploration talks have concluded.

K&K just delivered a few very vague statements to the press, confirming that the Greens will decide Sunday afternoon in a committee meeting if coalition talks will be started with the VP.

Kurz whined around how easy it was 2 years ago with the FP and how quick the coalition was formed (we were almost identical issue-wise) and lamented that the FP took itself out of consideration.

Kurz will talk with a lot of important VP-people during the next few days and decide after the Greens on Monday or Tuesday what he will do.
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« Reply #1404 on: November 09, 2019, 02:59:11 am »

A couple interesting new polls, as we are heading towards a final decision for intense VP-Green coalition talks in the next days:

The new 24 poll shows a largely stable picture, with the VP far ahead and the Greens slightly ahead of the FP.

VP-Greens is the preferred coalition now, with VP-FP falling further.

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In another ATV poll, 55% of Austrians support the expected in-depth coalition talks of VP-Greens either very strongly or somewhat. 36% are very or somewhat opposed to VP-Green coalition talks, with 9% undecided.

96% (!) of Green-voters support coalition talks with the VP, as do 79% of NEOS-voters and 68% of SP-voters.

Now the VP-voters: 61% support, 33% oppose.

Which means that a third of the VP's current 37-38% would NOT support a coalition with the Greens. Experts think that these 12-13% are the more conservative/nationalist/anti-immigrant FP loan voters that Kurz attracted over the past few years.

Therefore he has to be very, very careful in the coalition talks with the Greens so as to not make any concessions to them on immigration/asylum.

FP-voters of course are opposed to VP-Green talks with 71% (which is kinda low, but there are probably many FP-voters who think Kurz should try and fail ...)

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« Reply #1405 on: November 10, 2019, 02:31:39 am »

With 2 weeks until the Steiermark (Styria) state election, here's a "new" poll by IMAS for the "Kronen Zeitung":

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It appeared today, but was already conducted between Oct. 16-29 and therefore before the Nazi songbook scandal of the FP there ...

The VP does a bit worse than in other polls and the SP a bit better.

The poll also shows that the SP's candidate is seen quite positively, unlike the party as a whole.

https://www.krone.at/2039107
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« Reply #1406 on: November 10, 2019, 04:35:38 am »

The Greens will hold a press conference at 4pm today and announce their decision on a coalition with the VP:

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110886389/gruene-entscheiden-ueber-koalitionsverhandlungen
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« Reply #1407 on: November 10, 2019, 11:44:41 am »

The Greens will hold a press conference at 4pm today and announce their decision on a coalition with the VP:

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110886389/gruene-entscheiden-ueber-koalitionsverhandlungen

The Green Party committee voted unanimously for coalition talks with the VP.
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« Reply #1408 on: November 10, 2019, 01:57:41 pm »

Austria's Greens open door to coalition talks with Kurz's Conservatives

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VIENNA (Reuters) - Austrias Greens said on Sunday they are willing to enter formal coalition talks with former Chancellor Sebastian Kurzs conservative party, opening the door to negotiations that could bring them into national government for the first time.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-austria-politics/austrias-greens-open-door-to-coalition-talks-with-kurzs-conservatives-idUSKBN1XK0H7
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« Reply #1409 on: November 10, 2019, 03:05:18 pm »

The Greens will hold a press conference at 4pm today and announce their decision on a coalition with the VP:

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110886389/gruene-entscheiden-ueber-koalitionsverhandlungen

The Green Party committee voted unanimously for coalition talks with the VP.

So, what are the expectations regarding these talks?
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« Reply #1410 on: November 11, 2019, 12:33:49 am »

The Greens will hold a press conference at 4pm today and announce their decision on a coalition with the VP:

https://www.derstandard.at/story/2000110886389/gruene-entscheiden-ueber-koalitionsverhandlungen

The Green Party committee voted unanimously for coalition talks with the VP.

So, what are the expectations regarding these talks?

Nobody really knows. Everything is open. The talks could still fail as well. If not, there will be a lot of compromises, but the VP will dominate and will make the Greens accept a continued hard line on immigration and asylum while granting them a few cosmetical changes on climate change and social topics (but nothing too radical of course).
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« Reply #1411 on: November 11, 2019, 12:34:25 am »

Pete Buttigieg is apparently the SP frontrunner in the Nov. 24 state election in Styria:



"Vote for the Future on Nov. 24 - # Shift Change."
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« Reply #1412 on: November 11, 2019, 12:28:23 pm »

Today, the VP has also decided unanimously to start coalition talks with the Greens:

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They will start tomorrow.
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« Reply #1413 on: November 12, 2019, 12:45:53 pm »

VP-Green coalition talks started today.

K&K announced the creation of 6 broad negotiation groups, led by the following people:

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These 6 major groups will be divided into several sub-groups, which will involve a lot of party people from both sides, aides, experts etc.

Altogether, more than 50 people from each side will work out the details of the coalition contract in these groups.

https://orf.at/stories/3143982
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« Reply #1414 on: November 12, 2019, 01:04:01 pm »

For the first time, the future Chancellor Sebastian Kurz and Vice-Chancellor Werner Kogler appeared together today at a press statement:

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Source: APA/Georg Hochmuth

Kogler said after the talks that "time is not that important", but "quality is". He doesn't mind if the "popular Bierlein interim government remains in office until after the Christmas holidays."

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Source: APA/Helmut Fohringer

https://www.krone.at/2041230

In other news, the state prosecution of Graz has set their sights on Herbert Kickl (FP) and Wolfgang Zanger (also FP).

The Graz state prosecutor wants to convict Kickl on incitement of hatred and wants to charge Zanger for violation of Austria's anti-Nazi law in the new Nazi songbook scandal.

As MPs, both are enjoying immunity from prosecution, but a majority vote there could revoke immunity for both of them so they could be charged in December.

https://www.krone.at/2041157
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« Reply #1415 on: November 14, 2019, 11:55:14 am »

Theres early voting tomorrow for the Styria state election next Sunday.

To promote this early voting possibility, the SP has produced a funny ad:

Grandma is doing an all-nighter, because she has already voted. Use your chance to vote too.

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