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« Reply #1150 on: November 10, 2019, 03:27:20 PM »

30.68% counted

Mas       1.67% (I found 3 of the Mas lists)

Don't gey fooled with the MES-Esquerra list in the Balearic Uslands. I see two lists in El País outlet: Más País and MP-CHA-EQUO. Both arte totalling 1.8% and 3 seats

Vox taking the lead in Murcia, ahead of PSOE and PP. UP retains one seat and Cs is wiped out
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« Reply #1151 on: November 10, 2019, 03:28:10 PM »

Alternatively you can just use any Spanish news outlet, they will add the parties for you
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« Reply #1152 on: November 10, 2019, 03:29:04 PM »

Madrid and Barcelona are way behind on the vote count.
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« Reply #1153 on: November 10, 2019, 03:29:04 PM »

39.70% counted

PSOE   29.21%
PP        20.43%
VOX     14.34%
UP        12.60%
C           6.07%
Mas       1.93% (I found all 4 lists)
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« Reply #1154 on: November 10, 2019, 03:30:41 PM »

Teruel Existe! is about to enter in the Congress of Deputies
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« Reply #1155 on: November 10, 2019, 03:37:05 PM »

53.16% counted

PSOE   29.03%
PP        20.52%
VOX     14.68%
UP        12.68%
C           6.33%
Mas       2.09% (I found all 4 lists)

PSOE falling and everyone else gaining as the count continues.
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« Reply #1156 on: November 10, 2019, 03:41:02 PM »

Seat count:

PSOE 124
PP 85
Vox 50
UP 35
ERC 13
Cs 10
JxCAT 8
EAJ-PNV 7
EH Bildu 5
MP 3
CC-NC 3
CUP 2
NA+ 2
BNG 1
PRC 1
Teruel Existe! 1
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« Reply #1157 on: November 10, 2019, 03:42:04 PM »

53.16% counted

PSOE   29.03%
PP        20.52%
VOX     14.68%
UP        12.68%
C           6.33%
Mas       2.09% (I found all 4 lists)

PSOE falling and everyone else gaining as the count continues.

PSOE will end up at 28% or slightly bellow that, exactly the same as the second largest party in Portugal. PP seems or course to win something between 21-22%. Vox could reach 16%. C's is also increasing but I don't think it will reach 9%. UP could reach 13%, but only just.
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« Reply #1158 on: November 10, 2019, 03:43:56 PM »

Ok.  So it seems exit polls are roughly correct.  So more stalemate.  Sure all these parties do not have infinite budgets to keep on fighting elections.
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« Reply #1159 on: November 10, 2019, 03:44:39 PM »

Vox leading in Murcia in case anyone missed that.
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« Reply #1160 on: November 10, 2019, 03:45:54 PM »

63.66% counted

PSOE   28.80%
PP        20.63%
VOX     14.91%
UP        12.71%
C           6.50%
Mas       2.19%
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« Reply #1161 on: November 10, 2019, 03:47:09 PM »

Vox leading in Murcia in case anyone missed that.

And 2nd in Andalucia.
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« Reply #1162 on: November 10, 2019, 03:49:50 PM »

Right now, with the current seats, a possible pact to vote in Sanchéz as President is PSOE+UP+Más Pais+PNV+BNG+CCa+PRC+Terruel Existe: 177 seats.

Don't know if it's even feasible.
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« Reply #1163 on: November 10, 2019, 03:51:19 PM »

Vox now leading in Ceuta.
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« Reply #1164 on: November 10, 2019, 03:54:18 PM »

73.81% counted

PSOE   28.59%
PP        20.70%
VOX     15.05%
UP        12.74%
C           6.62%
Mas       2.26%
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« Reply #1165 on: November 10, 2019, 03:56:55 PM »

Seatwise PP+VOX+C has pretty much stayed the same.  I do expect C to gain a bit in terms of seats.  So on paper PSOE can still pursue PSOE+UP plus support of various regional forces.
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« Reply #1166 on: November 10, 2019, 03:59:52 PM »

Right now, with the current seats, a possible pact to vote in Sanchéz as President is PSOE+UP+Más Pais+PNV+BNG+CCa+PRC+Terruel Existe: 177 seats.

Don't know if it's even feasible.

CC is not compatible with Podemos or the BNG

Leaving aside that no bloc will win a majority, this result is truly depressing
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« Reply #1167 on: November 10, 2019, 04:00:40 PM »

I think PSOE will also lose its majority in the Senate.
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« Reply #1168 on: November 10, 2019, 04:03:28 PM »

81.75% counted

PSOE   28.39%
PP        20.72%
VOX     15.10%
UP        12.77%
C           6.70%
Mas       2.32%
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« Reply #1169 on: November 10, 2019, 04:03:32 PM »

Right now, with the current seats, a possible pact to vote in Sanchéz as President is PSOE+UP+Más Pais+PNV+BNG+CCa+PRC+Terruel Existe: 177 seats.

Don't know if it's even feasible.

Even assuming PSOE and UP can get their differences sorted out, not really, CCa will not support a government alongside UP. Worth noting of CC's 3 seats, 2 will belong to the centre-right CC and 1 to the centre-left NCa. So NCa might break the alliance and vote for Sánchez, but who knows.

Either way it is not the most unlikely government out there if the numbers hold, but I do expect them to come short by a couple seats in the end.
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« Reply #1170 on: November 10, 2019, 04:04:57 PM »

In the end, PSOE just needs more Yes than Noes, getting abstentions wouldn't be really that hard if they weren't so greedy.
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« Reply #1171 on: November 10, 2019, 04:05:33 PM »

So the only thing this election achieved is to take PSOE+C off the table as an option.
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« Reply #1172 on: November 10, 2019, 04:07:27 PM »

Right now, with the current seats, a possible pact to vote in Sanchéz as President is PSOE+UP+Más Pais+PNV+BNG+CCa+PRC+Terruel Existe: 177 seats.

Don't know if it's even feasible.

Even assuming PSOE and UP can get their differences sorted out, not really, CCa will not support a government alongside UP. Worth noting of CC's 3 seats, 2 will belong to the centre-right CC and 1 to the centre-left NCa. So NCa might break the alliance and vote for Sánchez, but who knows.

Either way it is not the most unlikely government out there if the numbers hold, but I do expect them to come short by a couple seats in the end.

They are already short of it, 174 seats. But like Velasco said, and you said, it's very difficult to form a pact with all these parties. I was only looking at the results and trying to find a way out, but alas.
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« Reply #1173 on: November 10, 2019, 04:11:04 PM »

81,75% counted

PSOE 28.39% 122
PP 20.72% 85
VOX 15,1% 53
UP 12.77% 35
Cs 6.7% 10
MP 2.4% 3
ERC 3.44% 13
JxCAT 2.1% 8
EAJ-PNV 1.87% 7
EH Bildu 1.35% 5
CUP 0.96% 2
NA+ 0.46% 2
CC-NC 0.16% 2
BNG 0.5% 1
PRC 0.31% 1
Teruel Existe! 0.09$ 1

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« Reply #1174 on: November 10, 2019, 04:15:56 PM »

88.60% counted

PSOE   28.21%
PP        20.76%
VOX     15.12%
UP        12.80%
C           6.76%
Mas       2.36%
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