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« on: February 14, 2019, 04:06:19 PM »

...and why?
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2019, 05:27:59 PM »

Trump because Weld isn't pro-life. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2019, 05:47:20 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience. Also any primary challenge to Trump will go down in flames and ruin that candidate's chance for statewide office (this is why I don't want Hogan to run, instead he should wait until Cardin retires and run for the Senate) Bill Weld  should run a primary challenge, because he will not be able to win statewide elections
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2019, 06:57:15 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience.

Do you realize what you've written here?
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2019, 07:09:18 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience.

Do you realize what you've written here?

He was Libertarian in 2016, so he could run on their VP ticket. Now he has switched back to the GOP knowing that Bill Kristol and the Never Trump Conservatives will back him in a primary bid. Bill Weld should just retires, neither party wants him
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2019, 08:15:44 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience.

Do you realize what you've written here?

He was Libertarian in 2016, so he could run on their VP ticket. Now he has switched back to the GOP knowing that Bill Kristol and the Never Trump Conservatives will back him in a primary bid. Bill Weld should just retires, neither party wants him

You are saying that you prefer Donald Trump because Bill Weld switched parties for political convenience
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2019, 08:17:28 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience.

Do you realize what you've written here?

He was Libertarian in 2016, so he could run on their VP ticket. Now he has switched back to the GOP knowing that Bill Kristol and the Never Trump Conservatives will back him in a primary bid. Bill Weld should just retires, neither party wants him

You are saying that you prefer Donald Trump because Bill Weld switched parties for political convenience

Don't give yourself an aneurysm. Understanding irony and hypocrisy isn't the strong suit of Trump supporters.
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2019, 08:23:44 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience.

Do you realize what you've written here?

He was Libertarian in 2016, so he could run on their VP ticket. Now he has switched back to the GOP knowing that Bill Kristol and the Never Trump Conservatives will back him in a primary bid. Bill Weld should just retires, neither party wants him

You are saying that you prefer Donald Trump because Bill Weld switched parties for political convenience

You're insinuating that Trump changed parties for political convenience, which clearly isn't true and makes no sense. 
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2019, 10:59:26 PM »

Lean Trump/Toss-up, but I will vote for a conservative challenger if one runs.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2019, 11:08:45 PM »

Trump. Immigration.
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2019, 04:07:51 AM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience.

Do you realize what you've written here?

He was Libertarian in 2016, so he could run on their VP ticket. Now he has switched back to the GOP knowing that Bill Kristol and the Never Trump Conservatives will back him in a primary bid. Bill Weld should just retires, neither party wants him

You are saying that you prefer Donald Trump because Bill Weld switched parties for political convenience

You're insinuating that Trump changed parties for political convenience, which clearly isn't true and makes no sense. 

Trump has changed his party four times in the past 20 years.
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2019, 07:30:28 AM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience.

Do you realize what you've written here?

He was Libertarian in 2016, so he could run on their VP ticket. Now he has switched back to the GOP knowing that Bill Kristol and the Never Trump Conservatives will back him in a primary bid. Bill Weld should just retires, neither party wants him

You are saying that you prefer Donald Trump because Bill Weld switched parties for political convenience

You're insinuating that Trump changed parties for political convenience, which clearly isn't true and makes no sense. 
why do you think he changed parties then?
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2019, 09:30:46 AM »

I think Weld is better overall even though he hasn't got a snowflakes chance in hell of winning. Solid academic credentials, solid political experience, during his tenure as governor he got decent ratings (A's and B's) from the Cato institute's report on fiscal policy, he's not a loudmouth or a populist. I expect him to be non-interventionist leaning due to his time in the Libertarian Party. I do have some reservations about gun control measures he tried to pass in Mass but he has renounced these views.
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2019, 09:55:56 AM »

Trump easily.
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2019, 11:17:59 AM »

Weld, although I wish he was harder on immigration.

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2019, 11:34:17 AM »

Trump has changed his party four times in the past 20 years.

Five times if I'm reading Wikipedia correctly.  He's also been a Republican for the last decade, except for a brief stint as an independent eight years ago. 

why do you think he changed parties then?

Because the Democratic party was no longer representative of his views.  If that's not the case, why does he have such fanatical opposition among Democrats? 
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2019, 12:37:49 PM »

If that's not the case, why does he have such fanatical opposition among Democrats? 
the non-hostile answer is:he's good at trolling them, and they're good at reacting

the hostile answer is:they (correctly) think he's a narcissistic moron, who is at best, embarrassing us like no one in history and at worst, is leading us to Armageddon

the truth is probably somewhere in between
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2019, 03:11:25 PM »

Trump
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2019, 03:22:02 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience.

Do you realize what you've written here?

He was Libertarian in 2016, so he could run on their VP ticket. Now he has switched back to the GOP knowing that Bill Kristol and the Never Trump Conservatives will back him in a primary bid. Bill Weld should just retires, neither party wants him

You are saying that you prefer Donald Trump because Bill Weld switched parties for political convenience

You can’t make this sh**t up, Trump supporters really do create their own reality.
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2019, 03:24:43 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience. Also any primary challenge to Trump will go down in flames and ruin that candidate's chance for statewide office (this is why I don't want Hogan to run, instead he should wait until Cardin retires and run for the Senate) Bill Weld  should run a primary challenge, because he will not be able to win statewide elections



Hmmmm.
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2019, 05:41:12 PM »

Don the Con could have been the Democratic nominee in 2004 or 2008 lmao.
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2019, 11:06:55 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience. Also any primary challenge to Trump will go down in flames and ruin that candidate's chance for statewide office (this is why I don't want Hogan to run, instead he should wait until Cardin retires and run for the Senate) Bill Weld  should run a primary challenge, because he will not be able to win statewide elections



Hmmmm.



What I am trying to say is that Bil Weld has done it. I do not deny that Trump has done it and has flip-flopped on issues. But when in office, he has not flip-flopped, he committed to repealing the ACA (which failed, but he tried) and successfully passed tax cuts. Bill Weld comes from the wing of the party were this would be anathema. Plus if a RINO like Weld was the nominee, the base would stay home and the Dems would win easily. Another thing, Trump has legitimately changed his positiona on issues. Bill Weld has kept the same positions and just changed the letter next to his name. Bill Weld's actions are the definition of political opportunism
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2019, 11:14:24 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience. Also any primary challenge to Trump will go down in flames and ruin that candidate's chance for statewide office (this is why I don't want Hogan to run, instead he should wait until Cardin retires and run for the Senate) Bill Weld  should run a primary challenge, because he will not be able to win statewide elections



Hmmmm.



What I am trying to say is that Bil Weld has done it. I do not deny that Trump has done it and has flip-flopped on issues. But when in office, he has not flip-flopped, he committed to repealing the ACA (which failed, but he tried) and successfully passed tax cuts. Bill Weld comes from the wing of the party were this would be anathema. Plus if a RINO like Weld was the nominee, the base would stay home and the Dems would win easily. Another thing, Trump has legitimately changed his positiona on issues. Bill Weld has kept the same positions and just changed the letter next to his name. Bill Weld's actions are the definition of political opportunism


Soooo now you're saying that Bill Weld is too consistent in terms of his positions whereas Trump flip-flops on the issues and that's a good thing?
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2019, 11:18:03 PM »

Trump, Bill Weld has switched parties for political convenience. Also any primary challenge to Trump will go down in flames and ruin that candidate's chance for statewide office (this is why I don't want Hogan to run, instead he should wait until Cardin retires and run for the Senate) Bill Weld  should run a primary challenge, because he will not be able to win statewide elections



Hmmmm.



What I am trying to say is that Bil Weld has done it. I do not deny that Trump has done it and has flip-flopped on issues. But when in office, he has not flip-flopped, he committed to repealing the ACA (which failed, but he tried) and successfully passed tax cuts. Bill Weld comes from the wing of the party were this would be anathema. Plus if a RINO like Weld was the nominee, the base would stay home and the Dems would win easily. Another thing, Trump has legitimately changed his positiona on issues. Bill Weld has kept the same positions and just changed the letter next to his name. Bill Weld's actions are the definition of political opportunism


I can’t even begin to untangle this word soup.
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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2019, 06:28:56 AM »

Trump.

He's made some mistakes and I don't agree with every action he's taken, but he's governed like a conservative some 80% of the time, is critical of the EU and China, has a good cordial relationship with Moon and Abe, I like his foreign policy in the ME, has been great with the courts and is addressing Immigration (albeit not always successfully). And probably has a 50-55% chance of winning re election.

Even though it's a moot point as Weld has no chance of defeating an incumbent in a primary, he wouldn't win in a general election anyway.
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