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Question: Do you believe the Warren report or do you believe this was part of a wider conspiracy?
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« on: February 16, 2019, 01:04:30 PM »

Do you believe the Warren  report or do you  believe this was part of a wider conspiracy?

Please vote and discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2019, 03:02:31 PM »

I don't think the report is 100% accurate, but I'm sure there was no wider conspiracy. Simply because it would have come out sooner or later.

The nontransparent process this was handled helped to create conspiracies and the simple fact that people can't believe a guy like Oswald alone can shot such a fascinating president.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2019, 11:08:28 AM »

There's no hard evidence to indicate a conspiracy and there is hard evidence that Oswald did it
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2019, 12:01:10 PM »

The Commission. I just don't think it's plausible that, if JFK was assassinated as part of a conspiracy, we still wouldn't have any hard evidence of said conspiracy after people have been looking for one for nearly sixty years.

The Warren Commission may not have acted perfectly, but the biggest issue as I see it is that people just have a hard time accepting that something so terrible could have had such a simple and seemingly random explanation (which is that, basically, a crazy guy did it). But Reagan, Jackson, and Teddy Roosevelt (after leaving office in Roosevelt's case) were nearly assassinated by a crazy people, too. Garfield and McKinley were also killed for basically no good reason (McKinley's assassin probably wasn't crazy, but he wasn't part of a conspiracy).
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2019, 02:16:54 PM »

I don't think the report is 100% accurate, but I'm sure there was no wider conspiracy. Simply because it would have come out sooner or later.

The nontransparent process this was handled helped to create conspiracies and the simple fact that people can't believe a guy like Oswald alone can shot such a fascinating president.

There is a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation here, a large part of why Kennedy is remembered as a fascinating president because he was assassinated.
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2019, 02:57:55 PM »

The Commission was inevitably going to be flawed due to Oswald's death (which is far and away the biggest problem with knowing the full story), but that's hardly its fault. A lot of details which only Oswald could possibly know were lost that day. That said, I think Oswald as the lone gunman more or less bears out.

What always gets me is how many JFK conspiracy theorists will quote Oswald saying that he was a patsy as if that proves something. Of course Oswald would say that! Oswald certainly didn't behave like a man with an innocent conscience: he went out and shot a cop afterwards.
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2019, 03:50:14 PM »

Were certain groups, and individuals trying to cover up, or mislead about what they knew, or did with Oswald? Most likely yes.

Does that mean Oswald wasn't the lone gunman? No.
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2019, 05:11:05 PM »

Was Oswald the only gunman? Yes. However, we know that Director Hoover and Vice President Johnson “secretly” aligned themselves with the mob forces that appear to have supported Oswald and then Ruby. The question remains as to who was more directly involved.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2019, 06:11:55 PM »

- Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.

- Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

- Neither acted as part of any conspiracy.

The end.
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2019, 05:08:45 AM »

Hoover clearly wanted Nixon to be prez. He didnt try as hard with all the assassinations, that he otherwise did under previous presidents to get them out of danger, Dr King or Malcolm X.

FDR and Truman had assassination attempts and Eisenhower and Nixon rode in open limos. But, they were also before Cuban Missile Crisis, when American diplomats were clearly targets of Russia and Cuba
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2019, 03:09:37 PM »
« Edited: March 06, 2019, 05:28:40 PM by olowakandi »

- Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.

- Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

- Neither acted as part of any conspiracy.

The end.


FBI Director, Hoover, was standing in the same room when Malcolm X was aasassinated.  The Mafia was connected with Jay Hoover and John and RF were having affairs with Marilyn Monroe. Mafia didnt want this to get out.

Hoover was known to saying this: its not FBI job to protect civilians which explains the Dr King loss.

Hoover had connection with police around the country and failed to properly alert them of unusual activity with Sirhan, Sirhan and Oswald Also, during the time of Assassinations, Hoover, like Trump was cozy to Kremlin. All spells Hoover fingerprints. The FBI, not Treasury is the Chief Secret Service police of nation.

Also, breaking into DNC, with Nixon, who was also cozy with Kremlin, occured right after 1968 assassinations.  Hoover userped his power as Head of Secret Service of the nation.

But, Kennedy heading to Dallas and RF goung through kitchen, when Mafia was clearly after them wasnt smart

Eisenhower was the last GOP Prez not connected with Kremlin.  Dubya clearly removed Saddam and it benefitted Russia and Iran
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2019, 07:30:46 AM »

Rafael Cruz killed JFK. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2019, 09:23:59 AM »

In all likelihood there was no conspiracy, and if there was it probably consisted just of Oswald and a drinking buddy of his or something like that.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2019, 04:52:14 PM »
« Edited: March 15, 2019, 04:55:22 PM by Mr. Rogers' Bunkerhood »

Olowakandi, could you elaborate on Hoover and Nixon being cozy with the Kremlin?

Please, I want to know more!
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2019, 03:08:32 PM »

while it's more likely than Big Foot or aliens at Area 51, I don't believe there is a conspiracy here.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2019, 06:23:21 PM »

- Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.

- Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald.

- Neither acted as part of any conspiracy.

The end.


FBI Director, Hoover, was standing in the same room when Malcolm X was aasassinated.  The Mafia was connected with Jay Hoover and John and RF were having affairs with Marilyn Monroe. Mafia didnt want this to get out.

Hoover was known to saying this: its not FBI job to protect civilians which explains the Dr King loss.

Hoover had connection with police around the country and failed to properly alert them of unusual activity with Sirhan, Sirhan and Oswald Also, during the time of Assassinations, Hoover, like Trump was cozy to Kremlin. All spells Hoover fingerprints. The FBI, not Treasury is the Chief Secret Service police of nation.

Also, breaking into DNC, with Nixon, who was also cozy with Kremlin, occured right after 1968 assassinations.  Hoover userped his power as Head of Secret Service of the nation.

But, Kennedy heading to Dallas and RF goung through kitchen, when Mafia was clearly after them wasnt smart

Eisenhower was the last GOP Prez not connected with Kremlin.  Dubya clearly removed Saddam and it benefitted Russia and Iran
https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-88184-747-5


Read this article, Jay Edgar Hoover was gonna be fired by either John Kennedy and RFK


"Act of Treason by Jay Edgar Hoover, who was cozy with Herbert C Hoover and Richard M Nixon
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2019, 08:49:46 PM »
« Edited: March 17, 2019, 09:06:05 PM by olowakandi »

Moreover, it was confirmed by CBS Sunday talk, that Hoover, received a note that Oswald would assassinate Kennedy for not getting a visa to Cuba. As a result, it was not passed onto Secret Service who could have been on the Limo with Kennedy, protecting him, Service agents were on Limo behind Kennedy.  

As a resulr, Hoover loses credibility, as time passing on, like Trump. As Oswald's wife, like Melania, is a Slavick refugee.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2019, 07:13:10 AM »

Moreover, it was confirmed by CBS Sunday talk, that Hoover, received a note that Oswald would assassinate Kennedy for not getting a visa to Cuba. As a result, it was not passed onto Secret Service who could have been on the Limo with Kennedy, protecting him, Service agents were on Limo behind Kennedy.  

As a resulr, Hoover loses credibility, as time passing on, like Trump. As Oswald's wife, like Melania, is a Slavick refugee.

I propose all Americans married to Slavic women should be detained until we figure out what's going on.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2019, 08:43:25 AM »

Clearly, Oswald killed Kennedy on behalf of his Slavick wife(getting visa to Cuba), but he acted alone, just like Melania, the wives were innocent. Trump wanted to be Prez, and Oswald wanted Kennedy killed.
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2019, 10:18:12 AM »

OC's posts in this thread are f---ing hilarious.
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2019, 12:54:46 PM »

OC's posts in this thread are f---ing hilarious.

How quickly FBI and Dallas police found out it was Lee Harvey Oswald and his wife was of Russian decent who wanted a Cuban visa, that Kennedy did not give to her.  Oswald wanted that visa and vowed to kill Kennedy

It was a conspiracy
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2019, 01:35:38 PM »

Wider conspiracy, I think it was organized crime.

So, RFK starts going after the mafia as Attorney General (who knows, coming from where they did, what sort of dealings the Kennedy family may have had with organized crime?) and then JFK gets shot by a guy who immediately starts screaming "I'm a patsy!" who, before he can stand trial, is shot by a man who is known to have connections to organized crime?

Sketchy, you know.
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2019, 11:11:25 PM »

The Warren Report (sane)
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2019, 01:50:29 AM »


Warren Report didnt have knowledge of the FBI knowing Oswald wanted a Cuban visa on behalf of his wife and Kennedy denied it, and Oswald wanted to avenge her.

That's why when Jack Ruby killed Oswald, he said, "why". This is in Jackie Onassis secret service agent, Clint Hill's book
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2019, 11:07:27 AM »

OC's posts in this thread are f---ing hilarious.

It's sad, is what it is.  And the worst part is that he's invested too much time and ego into his crazy talk to change his mind.  The JFK conspiracy theories are the political equivalent of antivax and Holocaust denial.
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