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WMS
Junior Chimp
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« on: February 18, 2019, 12:14:10 PM »

This teacher doesn't even know basic U.S. History. How is she qualified to teach at the 6th grade level? Also if the student was sitting how was he being disruptive? It sounds like she tried to force him to do something that is unconstitutional then got upset that a 6th grader is smarter than she is.



What the hell are you talking about? This story contains no details. All it says is that the kid insulted the US and after a couple back and forth the teacher called in the dean, after which the student was physically disruptive. How you go from that to leaping to the conclusion the teacher is in the wrong I have no idea.
Beet is quite correct.

From the story itself:
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AHEM. Maybe certain people could read the story before leaving snarky one-liners? Roll Eyes

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This is what the arrest was about. Whether or not this account by the school is accurate is undetermined at this time but this is not about refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Can we all save our outrage for actual issues like Trump acting like Victor Orban?
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WMS
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2019, 12:53:19 PM »

His refusal to stand for the pledge of allegiance is the underlying issue.
The story made clear that students don't have to do that and that the substitute teacher was in the wrong on that issue.

The entire matter was instigated by The Substitute Teacher Not Having Eight basic knowledge of American History or rights. They shouldn't have to know that the school has a particular policy about not being forced to stand for the pledge. Being a college-educated teacher should be enough for that if you want is remotely confident for their job. Yes sounded like the so-called back and forth got pretty turbulent, but reading between the lines when given the choice between blaming the instigation on a 6th grade kid versus a so-called adult trying to force the kid that say the Pledge against his beliefs and belittling him for it, guess which one I blame hands down every time?

You can bet dollars to Donuts that the school is trying to spin this as a disruptive kid because they damn well know that that idiot substitute teacher put them in litigation hot water.
It is absolutely a problem instigated by the substitute teacher. That was made clear by the school saying that teacher would not be returning.

The school might very well be spinning that way, but as I pointed out the accuracy of what the school is saying is undetermined.

Perhaps certain people could stop jumping to conclusions before all the information is out there?
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WMS
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2019, 12:35:10 PM »

Fair enough, and I agree. My response was actually precipitated by it sounded like you started to make up your own mind at the kid was primarily at fault rather than the school. Wink
At this point whether this was maliciousness or just stupidity is unknown, although from what Fuzzy said I would bet on stupidity. Smiley
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2019, 03:34:51 PM »

Fair enough, and I agree. My response was actually precipitated by it sounded like you started to make up your own mind at the kid was primarily at fault rather than the school. Wink
At this point whether this was maliciousness or just stupidity is unknown, although from what Fuzzy said I would bet on stupidity. Smiley

Tbh, if theres any truth at all to the reported exchange of the teacher telling the kid he could go back to Africa, id say both.

Well on the part of the teacher, yes, definitely both. I was referring to the school district on the either-or part.
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