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« on: February 19, 2019, 09:30:26 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2019, 09:33:29 PM »

Joke candidate and a terrible idea.

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2019, 09:39:55 PM »

Hopefully the other candidates endorse this idea too. I can see Sanders getting on board with this.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2019, 09:45:35 PM »

Good idea, love that guy
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2019, 09:47:13 PM »

Now ask him about ending the filibuster! Bernie already said he wanted to keep it.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2019, 09:51:50 PM »

I definitely think the eventual Democratic nominee should at least threaten to do this - if the end result is the court's numerical composition staying the same but at least one justice flipping from conservative to liberal, then I would still consider that a win (remember, it was that kind of thing which made FDR decide court packing was no longer necessary).
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2019, 09:58:13 PM »

He just moved up my list, bravo.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2019, 10:28:56 PM »

The replies so far in this thread are deeply unsettling.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2019, 10:30:18 PM »

Terrifying - moving towards Biden who I can trust to restore norms.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2019, 10:31:25 PM »

Terrifying - moving towards Biden who I can trust to restore norms.

Biden will be happy to work with the next James Eastland to restore norms in the south.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2019, 10:36:25 PM »

Terrifying - moving towards Biden who I can trust to restore norms.

Biden will be happy to work with the next James Eastland to restore norms in the south.

I watched a documentary last night on how he was the man who got John Stennis and Ted Kennedy on the same side. The dream triumvirate!
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2019, 10:38:04 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2019, 10:39:59 PM »

Oh no. Bad bad. Stooping to GOP level is not good.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2019, 10:40:50 PM »

Oh no. Bad bad. Stooping to GOP level is not good.
yeah. It's so enticing, but is way too scummy and sets a dangerous precedent.
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2019, 10:41:21 PM »

#PacktheCourts

There is no reasoning with these demons.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2019, 10:45:07 PM »

Great idea, but let's be clear: in the actual audio of him answering the question, he says he hasn't formed a serious opinion on the issue yet, but that it's not any different than what has already been done. That's not him saying "yes, I want to pack the courts" it's him saying "well if it's already being done, I don't see why it would be wrong to continue doing it to help the next President"
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2019, 10:47:08 PM »

Glad there's at least one candidate who is not a wimp.
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2019, 11:00:03 PM »

The replies so far in this thread are deeply unsettling.

What the GOP did to Garland was deeply unsettling.

I would accept a compromise where Thomas and Kavanaugh are impeached for their sexual crimes and replaced by Garland and (in the spirit of compromise) another centrist/tilt left judge in his 60s. In fact, we'll be so gracious that we'll let Stolen Seat Neil stay on the bench.

Or we can expand to 11 with two socialists in their 30s. Republicans can choose which one they want, or if they refuse, they get the latter. But Democrats must fight fire with fire before we just let it go.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2019, 11:05:22 PM »

The replies so far in this thread are deeply unsettling.

What the GOP did to Garland was deeply unsettling.

I would accept a compromise where Thomas and Kavanaugh are impeached for their sexual crimes and replaced by Garland and (in the spirit of compromise) another centrist/tilt left judge in his 60s. In fact, we'll be so gracious that we'll let Stolen Seat Neil stay on the bench.

Or we can expand to 11 with two socialists in their 30s. Republicans can choose which one they want, or if they refuse, they get the latter. But Democrats must fight fire with fire before we just let it go.

Packing the court is not the same as what was done to Garland and you know it. There is absolutely no defense for this position. Any elected official who so much as suggests this should be pressured to resign from office. I'm disgusted.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2019, 11:11:23 PM »

The replies so far in this thread are deeply unsettling.

What the GOP did to Garland was deeply unsettling.

I would accept a compromise where Thomas and Kavanaugh are impeached for their sexual crimes and replaced by Garland and (in the spirit of compromise) another centrist/tilt left judge in his 60s. In fact, we'll be so gracious that we'll let Stolen Seat Neil stay on the bench.

Or we can expand to 11 with two socialists in their 30s. Republicans can choose which one they want, or if they refuse, they get the latter. But Democrats must fight fire with fire before we just let it go.

Packing the court is not the same as what was done to Garland and you know it. There is absolutely no defense for this position. Any elected official who so much as suggests this should be pressured to resign from office. I'm disgusted.

It is the same. I would never, ever post claim something that I "know" to be false, and I'm offended that you would suggest otherwise.

The natural order of things would be for there to now be 5 justices appointed by Democrats and 4 by Republicans. Democratic senates previously confirmed Reagan and Bush SC appointees, including in the election year of 1988, so McConnell broke long-established tradition by refusing to even consider a Democratic nominee. He did this for partisan ambition and nothing else. He flipped what would be a D+1 SC to an R+1 SC.

All Buttigieg is proposing is to flip it back to its rightful D+1. Nothing any different than what McConnell did.
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2019, 11:12:12 PM »

The replies so far in this thread are deeply unsettling.

What the GOP did to Garland was deeply unsettling.

I would accept a compromise where Thomas and Kavanaugh are impeached for their sexual crimes and replaced by Garland and (in the spirit of compromise) another centrist/tilt left judge in his 60s. In fact, we'll be so gracious that we'll let Stolen Seat Neil stay on the bench.

Or we can expand to 11 with two socialists in their 30s. Republicans can choose which one they want, or if they refuse, they get the latter. But Democrats must fight fire with fire before we just let it go.

Packing the court is not the same as what was done to Garland and you know it. There is absolutely no defense for this position. Any elected official who so much as suggests this should be pressured to resign from office. I'm disgusted.

What the GOP did to Garland was in essence packing the court.
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2019, 11:17:02 PM »

And done with him.

You start packing the court, it continues until one side decides their newly packed court should overturn the election results. And what side do you think is that more likely to be?
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2019, 11:19:58 PM »

I'm loving him more and more! But it's not "packing" the court, its expanding the court. Appoint nonpartisan professionals and the issue is settled.
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2019, 11:22:42 PM »

This is good! He's starting to gain my favor. Though the issue of the Senate filibuster is just as important imo.
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2019, 11:30:22 PM »

I'm loving him more and more! But it's not "packing" the court, its expanding the court. Appoint nonpartisan professionals and the issue is settled.

They're all "nonpartisan." Appoint objective interpreters of law, not ideologues who decide cases according to their own views.

I'm not opposed to expanding the Court. But I am opposed to appointing people because of their ideology, who will decide cases according to ideology. Expand the Court and appoint the most objective interpreters of law to the new seats. What else is the Supreme Court supposed to be except the most highly objective interpreters of law that can be found in the country.
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