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« on: November 09, 2005, 07:09:22 pm »
« edited: November 10, 2005, 02:48:15 pm by Winfield »

In 1960

The Republicans and the Democrats nominate the heads of two of America's wealthy and powerful New England families for President.

The Republicans nominate Senator Prescott Bush of Connecticut for President. Bush has been a Senator since 1953. He has been a prominent business executive, and was the Connecticut chairman of the United Negro College Fund, and one of it's earliest supporters.

Bush picked respected Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen of Illinois for Vice President.

The Democrats nominate Joseph P. Kennedy of Massachusetts for President. Kennedy has been a prominent wall street investor, and made a fortune in liquor importing, movie production, and property investment. He was appointed in 1933 by President Franklin Roosevelt to be Chairman of the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission (SEC). From 1938-1940 he served as U.S. Ambassador to Great Britain. He resigned from this post in 1940, as he disagreed with President Roosevelt's determination to involve the U.S. in World War II.

Kennedy picked respected Missouri Senator Stuart Symington for Vice President.

How would this election of 1960 turn out?
Maps?
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 11:18:23 pm »

Wasn't Joe Kennedy rather old in 1960? If I remember right he died during his son's administration.

Now, Prescott Bush vs. Al Gore Sr. might be doable....


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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2005, 12:13:27 am »

Prescott Bush also made a tidy bundle helping to bankroll the Nazi regime.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2005, 12:32:19 am »

Wasn't Joe Kennedy rather old in 1960? If I remember right he died during his son's administration.

Now, Prescott Bush vs. Al Gore Sr. might be doable....




He outlived not only John, but also Robert.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2005, 12:43:46 am »

And Joe, Sr. supported the Nazis.  So it'd be interesting, to say the least.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2005, 02:30:50 am »

Prescott Bush also made a tidy bundle helping to bankroll the Nazi regime.
How come Averill Harriman is always airbrushed from these stories?  Is it because the Democrats don't know who he is, or is it because they do know who he is?
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2005, 10:04:54 am »
« Edited: November 10, 2005, 10:19:21 am by Winfield »

Prescott Bush's father-in-law, George Herbert Walker, and Walker's partner, Averell Harriman, brought Prescott Bush on as an officer of their investment banking firm, W.A. Harriman and Company in 1926. When it merged with Brown Brothers Harriman in 1931, he became a partner in the new firm of Brown Brothers Harriman.

As a managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman, Prescott Bush sat on several corporate boards, including:

Dresser Industries, Columbia Broadcasting System, Union Banking Corporation, Harriman Fifteen Corporation, Hydrocarbon Reserach Company, Vanadium Corporation of America, United States Guaranty Trust, The Simmons Company, The Continental Bank & Trust Company of New York, Commercial Pacific Cable Company, Hamburg-America Line, Prudential Insurance, Pan American Airlines, Massachusetts Investors Second Fund, Rockbestos Products Corporation, Pennsylvania Water & Power Company.

Harriman Bank was the main Wall Street connection for German companies and the varied U.S. financial interests of Fritz Thyssen, who had been an early financial backer of the Nazi party until 1938, but who by 1939 had fled Germany and was bitterly denouncing Hitler. Dealing with Nazi Germany wasn't illegal when Hitler declared war on the U.S., but, six days after Pearl Harbor, President Franklin D. Roosevelt activated the Trading With the Enemy Act. On October 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking opoerations in New York City.

Prescott Bush's business interesrts seized under the act in October and November 1942 included:

Union Banking Corporation (UBC) (for Thyssen and Brown Brothers Harriman)
Holland-American Trading Corporation (with Harriman)
Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation (with Harriman)
Silesian-American Corporation (with Walker)

These are the facts of any Prescott Bush directorships or ties he had that had any relationship to the Fritz Thyssen companies.

(Source Wikipedia)

 
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2005, 10:18:16 am »
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Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. suffered a greatly disabling stroke on December 19, 1961, which made movement and communication extremely difficult and limited until his death. He died on November 18, 1969.

In 1938, Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. was appointed as the United States Ambassador to Great Britain. Kennedy had little concern for the British, sympathized somewhat with the America Firsters led by Colonel Charles Lindbergh and others who wanted no war with Hitler, supported a policy of United States isolationism, and had no problem with Neville Chamberlain's policy of appeasement. He resigned from office in 1940 as he disagreed with Roosevelt's determination to involve the USA in the Second World War.

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2005, 10:38:11 am »

And Joe, Sr. supported the Nazis. So it'd be interesting, to say the least.

Virtually all rich people were pro-Nazi prior to the war, and in its initial stages.  After all, the purpose of Nazi-ism was to fight communists, socialists, and support Capital, religion, Traditional Values, and patriotism.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2005, 11:22:26 pm »

Religion?  Wasn't Hitler atheist?
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2005, 06:14:34 am »

Prescott Bush's father-in-law, George Herbert Walker, and Walker's partner, Averell Harriman,
And who was Averell Harriman?
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2005, 06:24:18 am »

This guy?
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAharrimanA.htm
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2005, 06:01:58 pm »

He was Arian, appearantly.  A mix of Christ and Christian values and old nordic gods and traditions.
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