HB 1376: Close the Regional Change Loophole Act of 2019 (Passed)
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« on: February 23, 2019, 06:31:11 PM »
« edited: March 10, 2019, 11:10:39 PM by Chairman YE »

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SEC. III. IMPLEMENTATION.
1. This Act shall take effect immediately upon its passage.[/quote]

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Passed 3-0 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,

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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2019, 03:30:15 AM »

I rise to the floor to request to sponsor this bill.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2019, 12:30:39 PM »

180 days?! That's over 25 weeks! That is FAR too long to keep people from moving regions. Why not make it just one or two months? At least then people could feel comfortable changing regions and we wouldn't have to worry about partisans moving around for political benefit. Not to mention the fact that it passed the Senate with THREE votes out of six senators.

This bill will cause more problems than it solves. I sincerely hope that someone can tell me why this is actually good, and how I'm laughably wrong on this issue
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2019, 12:41:15 PM »

180 days?! That's over 25 weeks! That is FAR too long to keep people from moving regions. Why not make it just one or two months? At least then people could feel comfortable changing regions and we wouldn't have to worry about partisans moving around for political benefit. Not to mention the fact that it passed the Senate with THREE votes out of six senators.

This bill will cause more problems than it solves. I sincerely hope that someone can tell me why this is actually good, and how I'm laughably wrong on this issue
I believe that 180 days is already the limit.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2019, 01:44:26 PM »

180 days?! That's over 25 weeks! That is FAR too long to keep people from moving regions. Why not make it just one or two months? At least then people could feel comfortable changing regions and we wouldn't have to worry about partisans moving around for political benefit. Not to mention the fact that it passed the Senate with THREE votes out of six senators.

This bill will cause more problems than it solves. I sincerely hope that someone can tell me why this is actually good, and how I'm laughably wrong on this issue
I believe that 180 days is already the limit.

Is it? I remember Pericles was registered in Alabama less than 180 days ago, unless my perception of timing is way off
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2019, 02:19:10 PM »

180 days?! That's over 25 weeks! That is FAR too long to keep people from moving regions. Why not make it just one or two months? At least then people could feel comfortable changing regions and we wouldn't have to worry about partisans moving around for political benefit. Not to mention the fact that it passed the Senate with THREE votes out of six senators.

This bill will cause more problems than it solves. I sincerely hope that someone can tell me why this is actually good, and how I'm laughably wrong on this issue
I believe that 180 days is already the limit.

Is it? I remember Pericles was registered in Alabama less than 180 days ago, unless my perception of timing is way off

Yes and he de-registered after retiring from the House before coming back in Minnesota. If this were to ass, he’d be forced to re-register in the same region he de-registered.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2019, 02:42:56 PM »

I agree with razze that 180 days is too long.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2019, 02:51:37 PM »

I fully support this bill to help protect the intregrity of our regions and to maintain fairness in the game. This is a good compromise bill that only limits rather than removes people's ability to move between regions while also allowing for emergency exemptions to be granted in the most extraordinary cases.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2019, 03:42:39 PM »

I speak in support of this bill to close the regional change loophole.

I also share razze's concern that 180 days is too long.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2019, 04:17:46 PM »

At least then people could feel comfortable changing regions and we wouldn't have to worry about partisans moving around for political benefit.
Isn't this point you made counterintuitive? If you make it easier for people to change regions, then it will be easier for the parties to move people around for political benefit.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2019, 05:06:46 PM »

Can someone explain why 180 days to long? Do you want strategic registrations to become more of a problem than it actually is?
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2019, 06:02:14 PM »

180 is the right amount of time. I support this bill.
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2019, 08:46:44 PM »

I'd be willing to support a 120 or 150 day limit, but not a 180 IMO that is far too long.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2019, 08:59:15 PM »

I hope you guys do realize that 180 days is the current limit, not a part of the bill.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2019, 09:00:26 PM »

Please tell me we are not going to have a good bill fail because people aren't aware of what is current law?

This is exactly why campaigning in the voting booth is still legal.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2019, 09:03:01 PM »

I hope you guys do realize that 180 days is the current limit, not a part of the bill.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2019, 09:03:43 PM »

This presents a good opportunity to debate the status quo and decide whether it should be changed. There is no requirement that the only thing this bill does be closing the loophole.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2019, 09:05:06 PM »

I hope you guys do realize that 180 days is the current limit, not a part of the bill.

I know, I should have clarified, I think the law should be 150 instead of 180. But on the notion of the bill itself, it should be passed and it's time the loophole is closed.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2019, 09:22:28 PM »

I would prefer that it be a separate bill since it's a separate issue.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2019, 12:21:35 AM »
« Edited: March 03, 2019, 12:25:41 AM by El Bayamés »

Okay I propose an amendment


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Close the Regional Change Loophole Act of 2019

SENATE BILL


to close the loophole for changing one's region more often than every six months.

Be it enacted by both houses of Congress assembled:

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SECTION I. NAME.
1. This Act may be cited as the Close the Regional Change Loophole Act of 2019.

SEC. II. CLOSING THE LOOPHOLE.
1. Section 14 of the Federal Electoral Act (F.L. 1-9) is amended by adding the following sections and renumbering accordingly:
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4. Upon voluntary deregistration, a person may not be allowed to register again until 168 hours have passed and, unless they were resident in their region of residence and/or deregistered for the previous 180 150 days  may not register in another region.
5. Congress, by a 2/3rds vote in each chamber, may unilaterally suspend Section 14 clause 3 in times of an emergency.

SEC. III. IMPLEMENTATION.
1. This Act shall take effect immediately upon its passage.

I would much prefer something closer to 120 days like TSA said, but since many people support having the limit remain at 180, I think 150 is a good compromise
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2019, 12:23:17 AM »

This amendment is very short sighted.
The 150 vs 180 day question should be handled separately, and should be done in conjunction with an amendment to the normal region change clause.
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2019, 12:27:49 AM »

There'd need to be another clause changing it to 150 days for all cases and not just those who deregister as I think now there'd be a weird situation where for people who deregister region lock only applies for 150 days while it applies for 180 days to everyone else(albeit this is a difficult loophole to exploit and would be less of a problem than the status quo in terms of allowing strategic registration).
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2019, 12:30:37 AM »

I object to the amendment. I suggest it's better to resolve the time period in a seperate bill, but I am personally supportive of maintaining the 180 day period.
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2019, 01:19:51 AM »

I also support maintaining the 180 day requirement
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2019, 04:46:56 PM »

I would urge the House to pass the bill in it's current form so that we can accomplish the intended fix of this bill. Getting into the weeds about the right amount of days should be a separate discussion.
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