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« on: February 23, 2019, 06:55:22 pm »
« edited: February 23, 2019, 07:00:41 pm by darklordoftech »

Why did the writers of the 12th Amendment require Electors to pick a President and Vice President from different states?
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2019, 07:42:14 pm »

The 12th Amendment made minimal changes to the Presidential election process in the original Constitution so as to avoid a repeat of the Jefferson/Burr problem. The original Constitution had the provision that an Elector had to cast at least one of your two votes fro someone from another state so as to avoid the electors of each State just nominating locals for Congress to choose from. (The Founding Fathers did not foresee the rise of party politics and thought Congress would be electing all the Presidents after Washington.) So when they split the two votes up into one for President and one for Vice-President they kept that provision.  Incidentally, if Cheney had been honest and admitted he lived in Texas in 2000, it's only the the Texas electors that couldn't have voted for both Bush and Cheney. Those in all the other States could have voted for both.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2019, 10:43:03 am »

As previously mentioned, it was the original Constitution that laid out the relevant rule for electors. Since all electors got two votes for president under the original rules of the Constitution, the framers figured that this rule would lead to a situation in which the electors cast their first vote for a favorite son candidate and their second vote for an out-of-state candidate. Presumably, the candidates receiving the most electoral votes would have a strong base of support in their home state but would also have the national stature necessary to win out-of-state votes.
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2019, 03:09:50 pm »

Incidentally, if Cheney had been honest and admitted he lived in Texas in 2000, it's only the the Texas electors that couldn't have voted for both Bush and Cheney. Those in all the other States could have voted for both.

Producing Bush-Lieberman, yes.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2019, 04:18:28 pm »

Incidentally, if Cheney had been honest and admitted he lived in Texas in 2000, it's only the the Texas electors that couldn't have voted for both Bush and Cheney. Those in all the other States could have voted for both.

Producing Bush-Lieberman, yes.

Assuming a party line vote, if the Texas electors had all voted Somebody Else/ Cheney, the Republicans had the necessary 26 States in the House to elect Bush, so it still would have been Bush/Cheney, just with added angst.
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