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Question: What percent of the vote do you think Trump will get
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50-55%
 
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55%-60%
 
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60%-65%
 
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65%-70%
 
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70%-75%
 
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« on: February 26, 2019, 10:56:41 PM »

Do you guys think many of the 3rd party "Never Trump" Republicans will come home for Trump, or will they vote for the Democratic candidate?
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2019, 11:34:02 PM »

I think Trump received an average of 56%-57% of the vote. He could do worse or better which depends on the Economy, political environment, The Democratic Nominee, The Current President's Approval ratings and etc.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2019, 12:46:02 AM »

I'm thinking the Trump vote stays about the same (~60%) but most of the 3rd party vote goes to the Democratic nominee there.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2019, 07:34:43 PM »

I'm thinking the Trump vote stays about the same (~60%) but most of the 3rd party vote goes to the Democratic nominee there.

This. In fact, I expect this will be the case just about everywhere and/or nationally in 2020 (though it doesn't necessarily mean that all 2016 third-partiers will vote for Democrats and all Trump voters will still vote Trump, just that it'll shake out that way in net/numerical terms).
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2019, 07:36:48 PM »

Isn't WOW one of the few areas in the country where 3rd party voters in 2016 went R in 2018?
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2019, 08:14:49 PM »

Isn't WOW one of the few areas in the country where 3rd party voters in 2016 went R in 2018?
TBF though Vukmir and Walker are much better fits for WOW than Trump.

Would probably say he hits around the same sort of vote that he got in 2016.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2019, 08:41:24 PM »

Around 60%, one of the few areas where I see him improving from 2016. This is generally why WI is more likely to stick with Trump than PA or MI.
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 08:51:33 PM »

Isn't WOW one of the few areas in the country where 3rd party voters in 2016 went R in 2018?

Certainly looks that way in the governor's race — Walker improved on Trump's margins in all three counties. But Walker was always their boy, so who knows. Relative to 2014, even he suffered significant attrition, with Waukesha and Ozaukee trending away. How much of that was the national suburban swing vs. Walker-fatigue? Tough to say.
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 10:09:43 PM »

Around 60%, one of the few areas where I see him improving from 2016. This is generally why WI is more likely to stick with Trump than PA or MI.

We'll see.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2019, 10:13:26 PM »

Isn't WOW one of the few areas in the country where 3rd party voters in 2016 went R in 2018?

Certainly looks that way in the governor's race — Walker improved on Trump's margins in all three counties. But Walker was always their boy, so who knows. Relative to 2014, even he suffered significant attrition, with Waukesha and Ozaukee trending away. How much of that was the national suburban swing vs. Walker-fatigue? Tough to say.

Yeah, I think Ozaukee County is certainly trending D, as Evers cracked 40% in Mequon, Cedarburg, and Port Washington. Plus, Ozaukee borders Bayside, a very wealthy Democratic suburb in Milwaukee County. Waukesha County is a mystery, but I guess maybe the white flight old-timers are dying out and getting replaced with my progressive-minded voters? We'll see, but Waukesha County is truly a drag on the Democratic Party of Wisconsin. A part of me wishes it didn't exist.
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2019, 10:15:25 PM »

60-40 in the two party vote.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2019, 10:46:20 AM »

Around 60%, one of the few areas where I see him improving from 2016. This is generally why WI is more likely to stick with Trump than PA or MI.

We'll see.

I do NOT think that Trump will win Wisconsin in 2020, but I'm not sure how someone could think he doesn't have an easier path there than in MI or especially PA.
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2019, 09:19:47 PM »

Thanks for the answers, guys.

I looked at the past election results for Waukesha County, and was kind of startled by what I saw.

In 2012 in Waukesha County, Romney received 162,798 votes compared to Trump's 142,543 votes. Obama received 78,779 votes while Clinton received 79,224 votes, meaning Waukesha County only trended towards Democrats by less than 500 votes while more than 15k voted third party. I just can't see Trump getting Romney's raw votes in Waukesha County. If his raw vote share remains the same or increases to, like, 145k (I doubt he'd do better than Walker's 146k votes) and the third party voters come home for either Trump or the generic D, then wouldn't Democrats would most likely get between 90k to 95k votes in Waukesha County? If so, that would be unprecedented for Waukesha County, and I just can't see how he wins Wisconsin without getting Romney numbers in Waukesha County.
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2019, 11:00:06 PM »

I think it will be interesting to see if the Democratic nominee does better in the city of Waukesha vs the more rural areas. Waukesha has a few democratic precincts, so we will see if those move bluer or not. For my money though, I think Ozaukee might start divorcing itself from the rest of WOW.
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2019, 12:13:36 AM »

I think it will be interesting to see if the Democratic nominee does better in the city of Waukesha vs the more rural areas. Waukesha has a few democratic precincts, so we will see if those move bluer or not. For my money though, I think Ozaukee might start divorcing itself from the rest of WOW.

Ozaukee is starting to vote like the Democratic North Shore suburbs of Milwaukee County, but it will take years for it to fully transition.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2019, 10:59:05 AM »

60-65%

Fun reminder that a thread was done for this during the 2016 election and Trump got 59.99% in Waukesha, trolling those of us who voted for the 60% option.
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2019, 08:47:27 AM »

61-35.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2019, 01:06:58 PM »


In my opinion, just doubt there will be that many 3rd party voters in the next election. I'd venture to guess around 38% to 40% for Democrats in Waukesha County while Trump gets between 58% to 60%.
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2019, 04:32:03 PM »

60-36
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2019, 04:48:24 PM »

64-35
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2019, 08:41:31 PM »


Seems kinda high to me.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2019, 11:21:39 AM »

Something like 64% seems reasonsable.
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2019, 11:47:47 AM »

If we’re assuming that rural Wisconsin is going to continue to trend Republican, I think it’s reasonable to assume that Waukesha is trending Democratic. Vukmir, despite being an awful candidate, was supposed to be a “good fit” for Waukesha, and still won by just 23, less than Trump did in 2016. Walker won by more than Trump, but significantly less than in his previous victories. I think that, factoring in third-party voting, 60-37 would be about my guess.
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2019, 12:42:44 PM »

Something like 62-36 seems most likely to me. Trump recovers somewhat, but nowhere near Romney's 67%.
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2019, 02:44:24 PM »

If we’re assuming that rural Wisconsin is going to continue to trend Republican, I think it’s reasonable to assume that Waukesha is trending Democratic. Vukmir, despite being an awful candidate, was supposed to be a “good fit” for Waukesha, and still won by just 23, less than Trump did in 2016. Walker won by more than Trump, but significantly less than in his previous victories. I think that, factoring in third-party voting, 60-37 would be about my guess.

I agree.
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