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« Reply #725 on: March 22, 2019, 05:20:13 PM »

It was a predominately white crowd at a predominately white university. Try harder.

Here he is like an hour later at an HBCU... lol



So he tweeted a 4 photos of himself with African American students? If you want to refute the idea that Beto has significant minority support, the answer isnt to take a photo posted by the candidate in question.
You’re reaching deeper than this conversation was. Bernie was made fun of for having predominately white audiences in traditional black spaces such as a black church in a majority black town in South Carolina. Beto having a predominately white  crowd at a predominately white university is not comparable. Beto did however have a black audience in a black space UNLIKE Bernie. It is what it is.

You completely missed what I was saying. Using a tweet from the subject in question is just poor evidence, period. Candidates specifically take photos and make appearances, use specific wordings, etc. to drive a narrative. This is just poor evidence, nothing more, nothing less.
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« Reply #726 on: March 22, 2019, 06:09:53 PM »

It was a predominately white crowd at a predominately white university. Try harder.

Here he is like an hour later at an HBCU... lol



So he tweeted a 4 photos of himself with African American students? If you want to refute the idea that Beto has significant minority support, the answer isnt to take a photo posted by the candidate in question.
You’re reaching deeper than this conversation was. Bernie was made fun of for having predominately white audiences in traditional black spaces such as a black church in a majority black town in South Carolina. Beto having a predominately white  crowd at a predominately white university is not comparable. Beto did however have a black audience in a black space UNLIKE Bernie. It is what it is.

You completely missed what I was saying. Using a tweet from the subject in question is just poor evidence, period. Candidates specifically take photos and make appearances, use specific wordings, etc. to drive a narrative. This is just poor evidence, nothing more, nothing less.
K. The photos of the crowd were staged. There were only white people there.



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Before a mostly black crowd of about 200 at South Carolina State, his voice hoarse after a multitude of events across several states in recent days, O’Rourke framed many of his answers to town hall-style questions around his desire to equalize what he sees as race-based unfairness in access to health care and business capital, as well as in the criminal justice system.

https://www.apnews.com/0480ea26e0c74adbad7b88485ea6909f

Like I said in the post asking if Beto was going to be nitpicked for having white audiences I said Bernie was mocked for having an 80 percent white audience in a black church in a black town. The situations were not comparable. Nitpicking every part of my post doesn't change that.
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« Reply #727 on: March 22, 2019, 06:37:35 PM »

I keep forgetting that Bernie is a horrible racist.
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« Reply #728 on: March 22, 2019, 08:53:31 PM »

https://www.thedailybeast.com/beto-orourke-was-rare-vote-against-tough-on-russia-bills-after-invasion-of-ukraine

Beto's terrible foreign policy history finally getting some mainstream attention, even if it is a bit of a rag.
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« Reply #729 on: March 22, 2019, 09:41:44 PM »

https://www.thedailybeast.com/beto-orourke-was-rare-vote-against-tough-on-russia-bills-after-invasion-of-ukraine

Beto's terrible foreign policy history finally getting some mainstream attention, even if it is a bit of a rag.

in b4 beto compromised by russia
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« Reply #730 on: March 22, 2019, 10:26:18 PM »



This crowd at USC though!

Of course the University of Spoiled Children supports Beto.

Its University of South Carolina... not University of Southern Cal  (or were you saying UofSouthCarolina   students are spoiled children)?
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« Reply #731 on: March 22, 2019, 10:28:07 PM »



This crowd at USC though!

Of course the University of Spoiled Children supports Beto.

Its University of South Carolina... not University of Southern Cal  (or were you saying UofSouthCarolina   students are spoiled children)?

Yeah, no, that was my bad, jumped the gun lol.
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« Reply #732 on: March 22, 2019, 10:51:27 PM »
« Edited: March 22, 2019, 10:57:17 PM by SCNCmod »

https://www.thedailybeast.com/beto-orourke-was-rare-vote-against-tough-on-russia-bills-after-invasion-of-ukraine

Beto's terrible foreign policy history finally getting some mainstream attention, even if it is a bit of a rag.

Quotes from the article:

"Recently, O’Rourke has gone further than some of his rivals on the issue of Russian election meddling. He has claimed it is “beyond a shadow of a doubt” that President Trump attempted to collude with Russia during the 2016 election. In 2017, he joined several other Democratic lawmakers in pressuring Trump to affirm U.S. commitment to NATO’s foundational principle of mutual defense, as the president questioned the transatlantic defense pact."

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"Ellehuus mentioned a candidate O’Rourke may be trying to emulate now, by way of understanding his early congressional votes. “You saw this with Obama, this idea we could confront the Russians when we had to but cooperate with them on certain areas,” she said."

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(In House Arms Services Committee Hearing)
“I'm out of time,” O’Rourke responded, “but what I'm really interested in knowing for the future is what potential threats are we generating by interventions in these two areas, Syria and Ukraine.”

These questions could easily be interpreted as a skeptical legislator simply doing due diligence about a significant foreign policy issue.

O’Rourke noted some interventions “make a lot of sense at the time,” bringing up the Islamist militants that the U.S. backed to fight the Soviet Union. “We didn’t look at… The second or third order consequences,” he said.
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« Reply #733 on: March 23, 2019, 10:15:41 AM »

It was a predominately white crowd at a predominately white university. Try harder.

Here he is like an hour later at an HBCU... lol



So he tweeted a 4 photos of himself with African American students? If you want to refute the idea that Beto has significant minority support, the answer isnt to take a photo posted by the candidate in question.
You’re reaching deeper than this conversation was. Bernie was made fun of for having predominately white audiences in traditional black spaces such as a black church in a majority black town in South Carolina. Beto having a predominately white crowd at a predominately white university is not comparable. Beto did however have a black audience in a black space UNLIKE Bernie. It is what it is.

The CNN poll that just came out has Bernie's favorable with non white Democrats as 77-9 compared to Beto's 35-14. Beto really has a problem there.

I for one am not shocked that Bernie is more well known. Give it 4-6 months and then we can compare numbers to see where they stand. Not saying Beto will be more popular, but he still needs to get his name out there.
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« Reply #734 on: March 23, 2019, 02:13:17 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.

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« Reply #735 on: March 23, 2019, 02:24:47 PM »

Either way, a very strong number for someone with relatively low name ID. He's gonna have more than enough money to compete heavily.
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« Reply #736 on: March 23, 2019, 02:36:12 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing
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« Reply #737 on: March 23, 2019, 02:54:18 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing

It's quite obvious who the Bernie people fear right now.
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« Reply #738 on: March 23, 2019, 03:02:48 PM »

Either way, a very strong number for someone with relatively low name ID. He's gonna have more than enough money to compete heavily.

Can he use any left over money from his senate campaign?
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« Reply #739 on: March 23, 2019, 03:06:01 PM »

It was still a $48 average contribution. Plenty of people donated money and then bought merch. Not that serious.
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« Reply #740 on: March 23, 2019, 03:08:08 PM »

Either way, a very strong number for someone with relatively low name ID. He's gonna have more than enough money to compete heavily.

Can he use any left over money from his senate campaign?

Pretty sure I read he donated the remainder to the Texas Democratic Party. Not a bad investment though. If there's one state I'm most optimistic about as a Democrat, it's Texas. The opportunities and rewards are huge. If Texas falls, Trump is gone and Democrats could once again become the natural governing party in the House.
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« Reply #741 on: March 23, 2019, 05:02:17 PM »

Either way, a very strong number for someone with relatively low name ID. He's gonna have more than enough money to compete heavily.

Can he use any left over money from his senate campaign?

He donated the remaining $4.5Million from his Senate Campaign to the Texas Dem Party. 

Pretty good sign that either that he probably wasn't Planning on running for President During his Senate Campaign or Immediately after losing to Cruz.... as many have accused.
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« Reply #742 on: March 23, 2019, 05:04:42 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.



If discrepancy really was a result of people Donating an Average $47... and then a portion of them also Buying merchandise (which was heavily visible on his website)... Then this is a complete non-issue.
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« Reply #743 on: March 23, 2019, 05:24:05 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing

It's quite obvious who the Bernie people fear right now.

Likely because Beto will be Obama 2.0 and compromise on every single thing? He already backed off Medicare for All, and don't give me the stupid pragmatism argument.
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« Reply #744 on: March 23, 2019, 05:59:14 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing

It's quite obvious who the Bernie people fear right now.

Likely because Beto will be Obama 2.0 and compromise on every single thing? He already backed off Medicare for All, and don't give me the stupid pragmatism argument.
You have NO idea of what American political culture is like, do you? lol
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« Reply #745 on: March 23, 2019, 05:59:44 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing

It's quite obvious who the Bernie people fear right now.

Likely because Beto will be Obama 2.0 and compromise on every single thing? He already backed off Medicare for All, and don't give me the stupid pragmatism argument.

I support Medicare for All and so does Beto, but he's realistic as well. We don't have the votes in Congress. The Medicare for America Act would be a massive improvement over what we have now.  That is something that could potentially become law with a Democratic President. It's not a debate over pragmatism. It's a debate over realism. The failure in the ACA was the inability to get a public option through, but that was because traitor Joe Liberman f-cked us over.
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« Reply #746 on: March 23, 2019, 06:00:51 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing

It's quite obvious who the Bernie people fear right now.

Likely because Beto will be Obama 2.0 and compromise on every single thing? He already backed off Medicare for All, and don't give me the stupid pragmatism argument.
You have NO idea of what American political culture is like, do you? lol


The S-AU doesn’t give it away?
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« Reply #747 on: March 23, 2019, 06:12:09 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing

It's quite obvious who the Bernie people fear right now.

Likely because Beto will be Obama 2.0 and compromise on every single thing? He already backed off Medicare for All, and don't give me the stupid pragmatism argument.
You have NO idea of what American political culture is like, do you? lol


American political culture is that every President turns out to be far more right-wing than they campaign as. You'd be a fool to expect Beto to be anything but the standard New Democrat that he was for his 6 years in congress.
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« Reply #748 on: March 23, 2019, 06:35:39 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing

It's quite obvious who the Bernie people fear right now.

Likely because Beto will be Obama 2.0 and compromise on every single thing? He already backed off Medicare for All, and don't give me the stupid pragmatism argument.
You have NO idea of what American political culture is like, do you? lol


American political culture is that every President turns out to be far more right-wing than they campaign as. You'd be a fool to expect Beto to be anything but the standard New Democrat that he was for his 6 years in congress.

FDR disagrees with that.
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« Reply #749 on: March 23, 2019, 08:28:25 PM »

Unique contributions wasn't unique donors. Of course they dump this on a Friday.


Your fear is showing

It's quite obvious who the Bernie people fear right now.

Likely because Beto will be Obama 2.0 and compromise on every single thing? He already backed off Medicare for All, and don't give me the stupid pragmatism argument.

I support Medicare for All and so does Beto, but he's realistic as well. We don't have the votes in Congress. The Medicare for America Act would be a massive improvement over what we have now.  That is something that could potentially become law with a Democratic President. It's not a debate over pragmatism. It's a debate over realism. The failure in the ACA was the inability to get a public option through, but that was because traitor Joe Liberman f-cked us over.

If the Republican Party in Congress had even the slightest interest in any form of compromise, I think this would be a good point. The fact is, though, they'll be ready to unilaterally oppose any President with a (D) next to their name and try to prevent them from getting anything done. If Democrats try to cede a bit and move to the center with the current Republican Party, this inevitably happens:

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