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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2019, 09:05:31 AM »

I think both annoy me, but the former is more annoying to me. 
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2019, 05:15:38 PM »

Latter.
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2019, 05:42:04 PM »

The latter has done more damage in the past; the former will proceed to do more damage in the future.
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2019, 12:12:05 AM »

Both are obnoxious (hopefully normal), but

Clearly the latter, as the former tend to be significantly more historically aware but view history through a particular lens, while the latter have no knowledge of history beyond a middle school level and are uninterested in learning more.
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2019, 01:37:01 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2019, 03:50:12 AM »

the former, being more likely to consider themselves extremely enlightened experts.
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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2019, 11:04:59 AM »

Clearly the latter, as the former tend to be significantly more historically aware but view history through a particular lens, while the latter have no knowledge of history beyond a middle school level and are uninterested in learning more.

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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2019, 08:57:57 AM »

They are substantially the same thing - philosophical idealists who hold that history is driven by an interplay of subjectivistic identity monads, rather than material social processes. A black nationalist is functionally indistinguishable from an American Patriot.
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2019, 09:03:44 AM »

They are substantially the same thing - philosophical idealists who hold that history is driven by an interplay of subjectivistic identity monads, rather than material social processes. A black nationalist is functionally indistinguishable from an American Patriot.

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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2019, 04:19:11 PM »

Both are flawed but the former is closer to reality
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2019, 11:27:42 AM »

Former.
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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2019, 12:18:42 PM »

whats 1776 ?

I thought we only reached 243 AID
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« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2019, 01:00:39 PM »

The former may be a generally unproductive perspective to have, but it doesn't challenge objective historical truths. Meanwhile, the latter trafficks in blatant historical revisionism and ignorance (and in a way that continues to scourge discussions on race relations to this day).

So, the latter is clearly worse.
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« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2019, 01:22:32 PM »

Wi: people who believe human morality has steadily increased along some sort of increasingly upwards zeitgeist throughoutvhistiry.
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« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2019, 07:45:18 AM »

Wi: people who believe human morality has steadily increased along some sort of increasingly upwards zeitgeist throughoutvhistiry.

Absolutely the worst, if only because it is much more common a viewpoint than the other two discussed here.
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« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2019, 03:56:06 PM »

You can combine the two with the idiots who say that this country is the most racist it's ever been.
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2019, 11:34:12 PM »

Honestly, I say the latter.
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« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2019, 03:27:57 PM »

The first one if you're talking about pure annoyance
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« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2019, 08:46:17 PM »

the former, being more likely to consider themselves extremely enlightened experts.

This. It's the same reason that people calling the Proud Boys "fascists" and "white nationalists" are worse than people calling Elizabeth Warren a "communist". Both are insanely stupid but the latter are rightly not taken seriously by anyone respectable while the former are legitimized by Wikipedia (which is why Wikipedia is completely stupid) and all major media outlets except Fox News.
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