SENATE BILL: Atlasia Territorial Statehood Act (Passed)

[ON Progressive]

Nay

[Devout Centrist]

Nay

[YE]

I’m going to suggest that statehood or not, these locations referenced here should be admitted to the regions as territories. They’re part of the US IRL after all so they should be part of this game.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Amendment S17:19 by Tack50

Aye (1): Tack50
Nay (3): Devout, Maineiac and Ontario Progressive
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): NC Yankee and Vern1988

The amendment has been rejected.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So where are we at now?

[MAINEiac4434]

I think everyone’s said everything they wish to here. I motion for a final vote.

[YE]

I’m going to suggest that statehood or not, these locations referenced here should be admitted to the regions as territories. They’re part of the US IRL after all so they should be part of this game.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

SENATE BILL

To provide statehood referenda to the territories of the Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and Atlasian Samoa

Be it Enacted in Both Houses of Congress Assembled,

Section 1: Title
1. This act shall be titled the “Atlasia Territorial Statehood Act”

Section 2: Granting Statehood Referenda
1. The territories of the Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and Atlasian Samoa shall be granted statehood referenda on TBD, 2019
2. For any individual territory, a simple majority must vote in favor of statehood for the referendum to pass.

Section 3: Referenda Passing Impact
1. If a referendum passes in any given territory, the impacts will be as follows:
a. All Atlasian nationals within those territories listed above that pass a referendum in favor of statehood shall be granted citizenship immediately upon their statehood.
b. Any person born within the territories listed above shall be granted citizenship immediately upon statehood.


Section 4: Implementation
1. This act shall go into effect immediately

People's Regional Senate
Pending

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I’m going to suggest that statehood or not, these locations referenced here should be admitted to the regions as territories. They’re part of the US IRL after all so they should be part of this game.

Preset many of these locations, in the Pacific Ocean were added to the Pacific region as a single state called oceania or something like that.

[ON Progressive]

There is one last amendment needed before we get to a final vote: setting a date in Section 2.1.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I’m going to suggest that statehood or not, these locations referenced here should be admitted to the regions as territories. They’re part of the US IRL after all so they should be part of this game.

I strongly second this—obviously statehood is the preferred outcome, but failing that there is no reason the Atlasian citizens in these territories should continue to be refused representation at the regional level. Yankee's proposal would also be acceptable.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

There is one last amendment needed before we get to a final vote: setting a date in Section 2.1.

That amendment?

I’m going to suggest that statehood or not, these locations referenced here should be admitted to the regions as territories. They’re part of the US IRL after all so they should be part of this game.

I strongly second this—obviously statehood is the preferred outcome, but failing that there is no reason the Atlasian citizens in these territories should continue to be refused representation at the regional level. Yankee's proposal would also be acceptable.

Are you referring to my pre-reset reference or something else?

[ON Progressive]

There is one last amendment needed before we get to a final vote: setting a date in Section 2.1.

That amendment?

I’d rather have the Senate do a debate personally before we amend.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

There is one last amendment needed before we get to a final vote: setting a date in Section 2.1.

That amendment?

I’d rather have the Senate do a debate personally before we amend.

A debate on the date you mean?

Technically speaking, the amendment process contains a debate period. It is just never taken advantage of most of the time.

When amendments to bills are offered to a given text, there is or at least was a 24 hour period in which a vote on the amendment was barred. This overlaps the 24 hour objection period and such objections could extend the period of debate. Ironically there was a time where I felt it necessary to have pre-process debate on complex matters to avoid getting caught in an amendment loop where each one fails over a minor technicality that needed to be adjusted. This was more common though when we had 70+ and even 100+ amendments during a Senate sessions. Good times!

[ON Progressive]

There is one last amendment needed before we get to a final vote: setting a date in Section 2.1.

That amendment?

I’d rather have the Senate do a debate personally before we amend.

A debate on the date you mean?

That would be correct.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

There is one last amendment needed before we get to a final vote: setting a date in Section 2.1.

That amendment?

I’d rather have the Senate do a debate personally before we amend.

A debate on the date you mean?

That would be correct.

Well I guess then to start the discussion, what would be the earliest practical date then for it too occur?

[YE]

I’d suggest a referendum within 30 days.

Furthermore, if we chose to add said territories to the regions, that should go in effect ASAP IMO.

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

I'm totally in favor of adding these territories as states as long as it's approved by the referendums.

[Devout Centrist]

Proposing the following amendment:

SENATE BILL

To provide statehood referenda to the territories of the Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and Atlasian Samoa

Be it Enacted in Both Houses of Congress Assembled,

Section 1: Title
1. This act shall be titled the “Atlasia Territorial Statehood Act”

Section 2: Granting Statehood Referenda
1. The territories of the Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and Atlasian Samoa shall be granted statehood referenda on TBD June 18th, 2019
2. For any individual territory, a simple majority must vote in favor of statehood for the referendum to pass.

Section 3: Referenda Passing Impact
1. If a referendum passes in any given territory, the impacts will be as follows:
a. All Atlasian nationals within those territories listed above that pass a referendum in favor of statehood shall be granted citizenship immediately upon their statehood.
b. the territory shall become a state, effective immediately
b.c. Any person born within the territories listed above shall be granted citizenship immediately upon statehood.

Section 4: Implementation
1. This act shall go into effect immediately

[ON Progressive]

The amendment by Devout Centrist is friendly.

[Vern]

Can we go to final vote on this.

[YE]

I’m going to suggest that statehood or not, these locations referenced here should be admitted to the regions as territories. They’re part of the US IRL after all so they should be part of this game.

[ON Progressive]

The amendment by Devout Centrist has passed.

I’m going to suggest that statehood or not, these locations referenced here should be admitted to the regions as territories. They’re part of the US IRL after all so they should be part of this game.

That does seem like it could be a good idea, though I'd like to know what territorial status would mean for the purposes of Atlasia.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment by Devout Centrist has passed.

I’m going to suggest that statehood or not, these locations referenced here should be admitted to the regions as territories. They’re part of the US IRL after all so they should be part of this game.

That does seem like it could be a good idea, though I'd like to know what territorial status would mean for the purposes of Atlasia.

If you mean in terms of being able to register in them, I think that would be allowable even without statehood being granted though a pre-requisite would be them being assigned or allocated to a region, but that is just my hunch.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

SENATE BILL

To provide statehood referenda to the territories of the Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and Atlasian Samoa

Be it Enacted in Both Houses of Congress Assembled,

Section 1: Title
1. This act shall be titled the “Atlasia Territorial Statehood Act”

Section 2: Granting Statehood Referenda
1. The territories of the Virgin Islands, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and Atlasian Samoa shall be granted statehood referenda on TBD June 18th, 2019
2. For any individual territory, a simple majority must vote in favor of statehood for the referendum to pass.

Section 3: Referenda Passing Impact
1. If a referendum passes in any given territory, the impacts will be as follows:
a. All Atlasian nationals within those territories listed above that pass a referendum in favor of statehood shall be granted citizenship immediately upon their statehood.
b. the territory shall become a state, effective immediately
b.c. Any person born within the territories listed above shall be granted citizenship immediately upon statehood.

Section 4: Implementation
1. This act shall go into effect immediately

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Status: Adopted without Objection May 7th


I actually created the link for this in my notepad but neglected to come back and click it because it was posted anywhere on Saturday. I temporarily created a post in my officethread to avoid this oversight from happening. I am waiting for clarification from Jimmy, after which I will move both posts to the Noticeboard thread.