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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2019, 05:02:05 PM »


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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2019, 05:03:22 PM »

Can we stop pretending James is some juggernaut? If you hadn't had a single attack ad run against you then you'd look pretty strong too. Stabenow basically ran on cruise control and still won by a decent margin, for all we know this guy could be a serious nut policy wise.
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2019, 05:52:50 PM »

Can we stop pretending James is some juggernaut? If you hadn't had a single attack ad run against you then you'd look pretty strong too. Stabenow basically ran on cruise control and still won by a decent margin, for all we know this guy could be a serious nut policy wise.

He ran at-the-hip with Trump against Stabenow. We know what his policies are.
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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2019, 06:05:45 PM »

Also if James manages to pull this off, he's an instant presidential/running mate contender for 2024 or 2028.
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2019, 06:11:38 PM »

Let's just say this doesn't look good for Peters to start off with considering the history of Michigan polls the past few years.
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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2019, 06:18:09 PM »

The word on the street is that James is going to run against Haley Stevens in the 11th district. Other than that, I have no idea who the MIGOP would have left. Even if he did run, James would lose because Peters wouldn’t give him the benefit of not being attacked the entire campaign.
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2019, 06:23:10 PM »

Yikes, I hope he challenges Haley, he would beat her, in exchanged for keeping Peters, I’d be more than happy to take that deal.
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2019, 06:26:38 PM »

Yikes, I hope he challenges Haley, he would beat her, in exchanged for keeping Peters, I’d be more than happy to take that deal.

I think he'd be much more likely to beat Peters than Haley, so from a Democratic perspective, he should run for MI-11.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2019, 11:03:57 PM »

Primary the f**ker before he blows this.

I agree. Gary Peters brings nothing worthwhile to the table really, and takes some oddly conservative votes. Michigan can elect a more liberal Senator without much worry. AOC should help fundraise a challenger for him.

Precisely - He's an atrocious Senator from an ideological standpoint (wasn't he one of the ghouls who helped the Republicans gut financial regulations last year?) and I can say with confidence that he will stay asleep at the wheel until the last minute next year if/when he's the nominee.

El-Sayed or (Debbie) Dingell should go for it.

He’s also on the record as being against net neutrality. Dude deserves a primary for sure.

And yeah El-Sayed would be the best bet here. There’s also some great options inside the state legislature (like Yousef Rabhi).
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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2019, 12:05:40 AM »

1. We are over a year away from the race people.
2. This is Emerson. At times it’s a hit, but at other times it’s a miss.
3. Lol at Wayne County going single digits in a presidential year! Sir Woodbury lost a few marbles there.
4. Lean D for now.
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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2019, 01:11:08 AM »

We all know that Michigan will be competitive on the Senatorial and Presidential level next  year but this poll probably has John James benefiting from name ID.

If Peters runs a competent campaign he should win but yea I think others could be right that he could end up as the Bill Nelson of 2020. I am not predicting that yet.
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2019, 01:20:54 AM »

The realignment continues!
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2019, 01:30:17 AM »

Apparently no one has looked at the maps from last year. Republicans gained in smaller counties, but lost votes in larger counties that they previously relied on. James lost Kent County of all places. There isn't anything to suggest that he can do better in a presidential year.

Yeah. The loss of Kent county doesn't bode well for the GOP in the state in the future. Also, Whitmer winning Washtenaw by a larger margin than Wayne was a disaster for them.

The thing that is underestimated with this is that it fails to acknowledged that while yes it is bad long term, but Kent is still six points more Republican than the state as a whole, meaning that a Republican only needs to win it by 7 to tie statewide.

These states are trending Republican overall, but the geography within is changing as well. The rural areas that used to vote Dem are now going Republican by 20%, 25% and 30% margins, and the suburbs are becoming the decisive swing areas. This compared to the previous alignment when Democrats combined urban and rural against the suburban/small city islands that Republicans won by double digits while losing statewide by as much or more.

MI Sen 2018 was more Republican than MI SEN 2012, despite the national environment shifting from D+4 nationwide to D+9. Similar was seen in other Midwestern seats.   

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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2019, 02:41:09 AM »

Yikes, I hope he challenges Haley, he would beat her, in exchanged for keeping Peters, I’d be more than happy to take that deal.

I think he'd be much more likely to beat Peters than Haley, so from a Democratic perspective, he should run for MI-11.

Regardless, I'd much rather have Haley take one for the team, even if she will lose, in order to save a senate seat.
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2019, 04:38:06 AM »


No one is running against Peters, but Peters with Harris and a blue collae Veep running a natl ticket, will be fine. As long as, Dems defend the pickups they successfully made in the House
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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2019, 04:58:40 AM »

This is giving me Florida 2018 vibes.
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2019, 05:56:18 AM »

Are we really overreacting to an EMERSON poll that is polling a race TWENTY MONTHS OUT
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« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2019, 06:32:28 AM »

Tossup,

But I think the Democrat drags Peters over the finish line


This and NH will come down to who carries the state in the Presidential Election
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« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2019, 09:27:38 AM »

Maybe that unstoppable juggernaut John James can run for Senate and MI-11 at the same time and take down both Peters and Stevens. He might even win Wayne County on the strength of the MI-11 townships alone.

What do people think of James using his star power to knock Rashida Tlaib out of office?
 
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« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2019, 01:26:06 PM »

Stevens or Peters, James will lose.
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« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2019, 01:51:00 PM »

The fact no one is contesting MI right now, speaks for itself. Trump isnt duplicating the 2016 midwest strategy over his unpopular wall.

He has the logo finish wall, that Conway's hubby stepped away from and others in Trump's own administration
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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2019, 02:59:31 AM »

#KIDROCK2020
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« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2019, 11:50:22 AM »

When was the last time Republicans won a Senate race in Michigan? Was it the last time a Democrat won statewide in Texas?

Spencer Abraham was Senator 1995 to 2001.
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« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2019, 05:05:04 PM »

When was the last time Republicans won a Senate race in Michigan? Was it the last time a Democrat won statewide in Texas?

Spencer Abraham was Senator 1995 to 2001.

I am pretty sure Dems won the Lt. Gov race in 1994 in TX when Dubya won.
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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2019, 07:03:31 PM »

When was the last time Republicans won a Senate race in Michigan? Was it the last time a Democrat won statewide in Texas?

Spencer Abraham was Senator 1995 to 2001.

I am pretty sure Dems won the Lt. Gov race in 1994 in TX when Dubya won.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Bullock
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