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« Reply #125 on: March 22, 2019, 06:38:18 am »

That's kind of the idea of the Cooper/Boles/Benn amendment.
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« Reply #126 on: March 22, 2019, 06:49:38 am »

Christopher Davies (Conservative, Brecon and Radnorshire) has just pleaded guilty to two expenses fraud charges.

I think this means another recall petition.  The Recall of MPs Act has special provisions for this, so it's not dependent on the sentence.
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« Reply #127 on: March 22, 2019, 06:51:12 am »

At the very least. If he doesn't resign first. Also, Lib Dems held that seat until 2015.
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« Reply #128 on: March 22, 2019, 10:20:23 am »

We need to pass the necessary legislation for the EP elections by then anyway.

No legislation necessary. As a precautionary measure, the Electoral Commission has already set aside the necessary funds to deliver their functions for its activities relating to a European parliamentary election, in the event that they do go ahead.
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« Reply #129 on: March 22, 2019, 02:25:04 pm »

Don't we need to pass secondary legislation?
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« Reply #130 on: March 22, 2019, 04:00:29 pm »

Don't we need to pass secondary legislation?

No, the only secondary legislation that Parliament must pass is the statutory instrument required to change the Brexit date in law before March 29th.

If a scenario occurs in which Britain will be remaining a member of the EU past June 30th, then the (automatic) holding of the EU parliamentary elections is already accounted for under current law & status as a member of the EU.
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« Reply #131 on: March 22, 2019, 08:03:20 pm »

Britain is saved! Uri Geller personally takes control of the Brexit process:





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« Reply #132 on: March 23, 2019, 06:31:06 am »

Is it worth mentioning that petition now has over 4 million signatures?

It only takes 100,000 to have a referendum here, and even factoring in population differences...
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« Reply #133 on: March 23, 2019, 06:42:11 am »

The last Chartist petition of 1848 had six million, although there were some fake names on that. It took seventy years to achieve five of its six goals; the annual elections one hasn't happened yet.
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« Reply #134 on: March 23, 2019, 07:27:08 am »

They should have moved the exit date to June 28 for maximum symbolism.
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« Reply #135 on: March 23, 2019, 07:34:38 am »

The 7 May date was seemingly dropped when it was pointed out that the following day was VE Day.
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« Reply #136 on: March 23, 2019, 12:23:05 pm »

The 7 May date was seemingly dropped when it was pointed out that the following day was VE Day.

What would the point of 7 May have been?

I understand 11 April as last possible date for UK to announce EU elections, and 22 May as last day before EU elections. What happens on 7 May?
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« Reply #137 on: March 23, 2019, 12:43:13 pm »

Anyone taking part in this?

Anti-Brexit marchers swarm London streets, demand new vote



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« Reply #138 on: March 23, 2019, 12:45:32 pm »

The 7 May date was seemingly dropped when it was pointed out that the following day was VE Day.

What would the point of 7 May have been?

I understand 11 April as last possible date for UK to announce EU elections, and 22 May as last day before EU elections. What happens on 7 May?
8th of May is a public holiday in France. So it would have given them a one day "buffer" to more or less get things in place
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« Reply #139 on: March 23, 2019, 12:59:22 pm »
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Yes, the public holiday marking the end of the war and the liberation of the country from a bunch of Germans...

You can see the symbolism from a mile off.

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Didn't take part in the march today for various reasons, some of which I won't go into. While I did sign a People's Vote petition a while back, I'm not comfortable with a straight revoking of A50.

For one thing, if A50 was revoked without a referendum, what stops a future government from just invoking it again?
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« Reply #140 on: March 23, 2019, 02:27:32 pm »

Anyone taking part in this?

Anti-Brexit marchers swarm London streets, demand new vote





Yeah I did.
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« Reply #141 on: March 23, 2019, 03:46:21 pm »

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« Reply #142 on: March 23, 2019, 04:26:11 pm »





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« Reply #143 on: March 23, 2019, 04:35:19 pm »

I went to the march after doing some book shopping- was great fun, and lovely to see people on the train with flags, signs and stuff. Genuine movement as well with people across the country coming- my main takeaway is that Brexit will continue to be a huge cultural issue for a long time. You cant just put this back in the bottle.

And fwiw the news of a coup is most likely overblown briefing- no PM has actually been removed in a cabinet lead coup since what 1916?
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« Reply #144 on: March 23, 2019, 04:39:46 pm »

Thatcher was basically told to go in 1990 after failing to end the leadership contest in the first round.

Whatever happens re Brexit, it won't end the issue, I agree. it was too close.
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« Reply #145 on: March 23, 2019, 05:26:37 pm »

Thatcher was basically told to go in 1990 after failing to end the leadership contest in the first round.

Whatever happens re Brexit, it won't end the issue, I agree. it was too close.

Yeah; but that started with the leadership bid. We havent had the cabinet actually march up to a PM and tell them to quit- but we get tons of stories about it (Brown in 08, Major in 95 and countless others)

Im just so sceptical that a cabinet full of leadership rivals is able to actually do anything this well delicate.
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« Reply #146 on: March 23, 2019, 05:30:38 pm »

May can't face a leadership challenge until December.
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« Reply #147 on: March 23, 2019, 05:38:43 pm »

May can't face a leadership challenge until December.

And if half the cabinet resign the Tory whip until May is gone?

Not that I'm saying that is what will happen, but if enuf Tories decide they'd rather have an election than let May continue pretending she has a chance of getting her plan passed, then she's toast even if she nominally remains in charge of the party until December.
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« Reply #148 on: March 23, 2019, 05:59:47 pm »

They wouldn't resign the whip, but they might well resign their Cabinet posts.
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« Reply #149 on: March 23, 2019, 06:29:00 pm »

On paper, even if the entire May cabinet (minus may herself of course) resigned, May could stay as PM right?

Just name new cabinet ministers, I guess there will be at least a dozen tories willing to go down with her. If necessary, she could even appoint them from the House of Lords? (where they wouldn't even need to worry for reelection)
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