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« Reply #575 on: May 22, 2019, 11:07:19 AM »




If this actually ends up happening...lmfao.


(Cross-posted from Audrey on AAD)
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« Reply #576 on: May 22, 2019, 12:53:58 PM »

And May continues to hang on, at least for a few more days.
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« Reply #577 on: May 22, 2019, 01:17:00 PM »

Madness and stupidity from them. They should have stormed Downing Street and forced an unconditional resignation, it literally helps no one (particulary the cabinet candidates for PM) to continue this farce.
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« Reply #578 on: May 22, 2019, 01:21:38 PM »

And May continues to hang on, at least for a few more days.

She only needs to hang on a week to beat Gordon Brown's tenure in office.

Madness and stupidity from them. They should have stormed Downing Street and forced an unconditional resignation, it literally helps no one (particulary the cabinet candidates for PM) to continue this farce.

It's a prisoner's dilemma situation. Nobody wants May to hold on, but nobody wants to be seen as the person responsible for knifing her in the back. Either everyone needs to do it together (IE the 1922 Committee) or nobody will do it. And besides, why force her out today when you can force her out in a few days and unambiguously put the EU election results on her.
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« Reply #579 on: May 22, 2019, 02:37:42 PM »

Andrea Leadsom has resigned from the Cabinet.
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« Reply #580 on: May 22, 2019, 02:43:02 PM »

And May continues to hang on, at least for a few more days.

She only needs to hang on a week to beat Gordon Brown's tenure in office.

Guess she's really determined to stay longer than Brown lol
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« Reply #581 on: May 22, 2019, 04:10:34 PM »

Andrea Leadsom has resigned from the Cabinet.

That makes 36 ministerial resignations for May in under three years.
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« Reply #582 on: May 22, 2019, 05:22:37 PM »

The plot thickens.
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« Reply #583 on: May 23, 2019, 07:14:22 PM »

Rumours that May will finally make a meaningful statement on her departure in the next 24 hours.

But she has led people up the garden path before, so I will believe it when I see it.
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« Reply #584 on: May 24, 2019, 04:12:20 AM »

Rumours that May will finally make a meaningful statement on her departure in the next 24 hours.

But she has led people up the garden path before, so I will believe it when I see it.

Resigning on 7 June, apparently.  Leadership election to start the week after that.
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« Reply #585 on: May 24, 2019, 04:17:48 AM »

FINALLY!

But I already pity the fool who will succeed her.
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« Reply #586 on: May 24, 2019, 04:30:39 AM »

The end of May seems to be a week late this year.
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« Reply #587 on: May 24, 2019, 04:33:30 AM »
« Edited: May 24, 2019, 04:59:30 AM by Pericles »

Does it look like she'll be PM longer than Gordon Brown?

EDIT: She will pass him on 29 May, a near certainty she will last longer given she won't resign as Tory leader until June 7 and even then she'll stay as leader for a bit until the leadership contest is completed. A hollow victory though, Gordon Brown put the time he had as PM to better use.
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« Reply #588 on: May 24, 2019, 04:34:32 AM »

How is it possible for a new leader to have a tenable majority?
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« Reply #589 on: May 24, 2019, 04:42:51 AM »

I pitied her a bit when she teared up at the end. It's clear her premiership has been a complete failure, and that's not easy to deal with for her, but unfortunately there were plenty of unforced errors from her that ensured she failed so miserably. And unfortunately the next PM looks very likely to have an even more unrealistic approach to Brexit than her, and the outcome is unlikely to be much better.
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« Reply #590 on: May 24, 2019, 05:06:59 AM »

That's she's being petty enough to cling on until she surpasses Gordon Brown removes any sympathy I might have for her and that whoever replaces her will probably be much worse removes any excitement I might have.

At least she's going though. If the Leader of the Opposition could follow suit we'd be a good chunk of the way to British politics becoming halfway not-abysmal again.
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« Reply #591 on: May 24, 2019, 08:55:32 AM »

So who would you all like to see as Conservative Leader?

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« Reply #592 on: May 24, 2019, 08:57:47 AM »

So who would you all like to see as Conservative Leader?



I want May to stay, which sadly isn't happening

While it will likely be Boris Johnson, he might be too Eurosceptic for the Conservatives to have a strong appeal
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« Reply #593 on: May 24, 2019, 09:25:17 AM »

So who would you all like to see as Conservative Leader?



I want May to stay, which sadly isn't happening

While it will likely be Boris Johnson, he might be too Eurosceptic for the Conservatives to have a strong appeal

He's the one Labour members fear most.

I doubt many Conservatives who have stuck with it up to this point would bolt under a Boris Premiership - and if they did they'd probably vote Lib Dem rather than Labour. Although his image has changed since, his appeal has proven to be large enough - take his Mayor of London term against Ken Livingstone.
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« Reply #594 on: May 24, 2019, 09:44:40 AM »

A President Trump and a PM Boris Johnson. What an awful time to be alive.
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« Reply #595 on: May 24, 2019, 10:22:37 AM »

Of all the Tories out there throwing their hat in the ring, Rory Stewart is obviously the most intelligent and capable (and has a far more interesting career than your standard career politician considering he's only 46), but as a Remainer he is dead in the water. I have no interest in people like Rudd, Hunt and Javid, especially Hunt who would possibly be the most undeserving PM of the modern era; and they like all other Remainers are irrelevent.

Of the Brexiters who stayed in cabinet, I'll say Mordaunt seems the most viable "compromise" option, given she was always on the Leave side but remained professional enough to not flounce off, which could help her in the early rounds as a transfer friendly candidate. She also comes from a background of relative hardship and has some unorthodox opinions on social issues. I will also say that I am weirdly fascinated by Liz Truss, but not to the point of voting for her. Gove is a complete snake who would repel almost everyone, his not terrible record in Environment aside.

Finally of the people who left before the withdrawal agreement was published, if it ends up as "anyone but Boris", you'll probably just get a final ballot with Raab on it. Raab is very arrogant but isn't a human disaster zone/despised by all his colleagues like BoJo is.
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« Reply #596 on: May 24, 2019, 10:30:28 AM »

Mordaunt's name is so...it's a movie villain name, and literally was the villain of an Alexander Dumas book. It hints at both "death" and "daunting" over the course of two syllables.
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« Reply #597 on: May 24, 2019, 12:11:04 PM »

Good riddance to May, though PM Boris doesn't inspire much confidence either.
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« Reply #598 on: May 24, 2019, 01:28:27 PM »

So who would you all like to see as Conservative Leader?



I want May to stay, which sadly isn't happening

While it will likely be Boris Johnson, he might be too Eurosceptic for the Conservatives to have a strong appeal

He's the one Labour members fear most.

I doubt many Conservatives who have stuck with it up to this point would bolt under a Boris Premiership - and if they did they'd probably vote Lib Dem rather than Labour. Although his image has changed since, his appeal has proven to be large enough - take his Mayor of London term against Ken Livingstone.

He is nowhere near as popular now as in his mayoral days - the "Labour fear him" stuff is very passe.

And quite a few of his parliamentary colleagues genuinely despise him.
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« Reply #599 on: May 24, 2019, 01:37:27 PM »

Yes. He used to be popular, but is no longer popular. It's strange that people struggle with this concept.
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