UK General Discussion: 2019 and onwards, The End of May

[The Mikado]

Yes. He used to be popular, but is no longer popular. It's strange that people struggle with this concept.

If they picked him, wouldn't that at the very least take the wind out of the sails of Farage's vanity party?

[Vaccinated Russian Bear]

A President Trump and a PM Boris Johnson. What an awful time to be alive.

Poor Assange... I suppose, he is toast, if Boris becomes a PM? 

[beesley]

So who would you all like to see as Conservative Leader?

I want May to stay, which sadly isn't happening

While it will likely be Boris Johnson, he might be too Eurosceptic for the Conservatives to have a strong appeal

He's the one Labour members fear most.

I doubt many Conservatives who have stuck with it up to this point would bolt under a Boris Premiership - and if they did they'd probably vote Lib Dem rather than Labour. Although his image has changed since, his appeal has proven to be large enough - take his Mayor of London term against Ken Livingstone.

He is nowhere near as popular now as in his mayoral days - the "Labour fear him" stuff is very passe.

And quite a few of his parliamentary colleagues genuinely despise him.

They're softening. Ultimately I agree he is over hyped but despite the hate he still has a fighting chance against Jeremy Corbyn. None of the others stand out as strongly electable either. I'm not a Conservative member but I know many who are and I don't think there is one issue among them that will decide the next leader (I do live here despite the flag)

My point about him being popular in London is that he does have potential to appeal across the aisle, even if he was less popular. Things can also change. It's strange that people struggle with that concept.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Things can also change. It's strange that people struggle with that concept.

Generally speaking if a politician who was popular because they were seen as 'not a politician really' acquires a reputation as not only 'absolutely a politician, actually' but a backstabbing careerist scumbag to boot, they do not regain their former popularity.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

He's gone and done it:

[cp]

Things can also change. It's strange that people struggle with that concept.

Generally speaking if a politician who was popular because they were seen as 'not a politician really' acquires a reputation as not only 'absolutely a politician, actually' but a backstabbing careerist scumbag to boot, they do not regain their former popularity.

Indeed. Johnson's appeal to the constituencies that won him the London Mayoralty in 2008/12 died with the referendum. Since then he's lost all credibility by parroting Leave nonsense talking points about 'no deal' and 'alternative arrangements'. He's also left himself wide open to criticism from the Farage side of things by voting for May's Withdrawal Agreement, despite having denounced it for months beforehand.

Sure, Johnson has a retail politician's charisma and a hardcore fanbase, but to be frank, he's yesterday's man. Corbyn may stumble for other reasons, but the obstacle to him becoming Prime Minister in a few months is not Boris Johnson's popularity.

[brucejoel99]

He's gone and done it:

HA!

https://twitter.com/david_cameron/status/595112367358406656?lang=en

[LabourJersey]

TIL that Ed Miliband is still in Parliament. I always assumed he left in the 2017 election

[Sestak]

TIL that Ed Miliband is still in Parliament. I always assumed he left in the 2017 election

Yeah that came as a surprise to me too.

[CumbrianLefty]

He actually had his best ever constituency result in 2017 I think.

It is rumoured Corbyn has approached him about a Shadow Cabinet return on at least one occasion, allegedly he turned it down but not before seriously thinking about it.

[junior chįmp]

Old School Republican keeps asking me if UK voters are as dumb as US voters....I present to you my findings:

https://youtu.be/_sltIisHseA

[Progressive Pessimist]

So, it appears that the United Kingdom will have its three most rubbish Prime Ministers all serve consecutively. Interesting.

[Pericles]

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

He actually had his best ever constituency result in 2017 I think.

It is rumoured Corbyn has approached him about a Shadow Cabinet return on at least one occasion, allegedly he turned it down but not before seriously thinking about it.

The return of Ed Miliband to power would somehow be the most entertaining thing to come out of this mess.

[The Mikado]

He actually had his best ever constituency result in 2017 I think.

It is rumoured Corbyn has approached him about a Shadow Cabinet return on at least one occasion, allegedly he turned it down but not before seriously thinking about it.

The return of Ed Miliband to power would somehow be the most entertaining thing to come out of this mess.

Chaos.


_{With Ed Miliband.}

[James Monroe]

This tweet is downright sickening. How this person gets to run a presidential campaign is a question that deserves to be accounted for.


https://twitter.com/WaywardWinifred/status/1132790657221824512

[Former President tack50]

This tweet is downright sickening. How this person gets to run a presidential campaign is a question that deserves to be accounted for.


https://twitter.com/WaywardWinifred/status/1132790657221824512

PM of England. So is Wales, Scotland and NI getting independence?

[DaWN]

This tweet is downright sickening. How this person gets to run a presidential campaign is a question that deserves to be accounted for.


https://twitter.com/WaywardWinifred/status/1132790657221824512

That someone took 'Corbyn is going to be the next PM' from last night's results is utterly hilarious. The Labour membership is so deluded, I honestly think the party suffering a 1931-style result wouldn't snap them out of it at this point.

EDIT: Well the tweeter isn't technically Labour, but the point stands

[Silent Hunter]

For all the polling, Labour hasn't actually done great in elections.

[Pandaguineapig]

This tweet is downright sickening. How this person gets to run a presidential campaign is a question that deserves to be accounted for.


https://twitter.com/WaywardWinifred/status/1132790657221824512

She, like all Corbyn fans, is painfully stupid

[An American Tail: Fubart Goes West]

This tweet is downright sickening. How this person gets to run a presidential campaign is a question that deserves to be accounted for.


https://twitter.com/WaywardWinifred/status/1132790657221824512

What is so sickening about this?

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

This tweet is downright sickening. How this person gets to run a presidential campaign is a question that deserves to be accounted for.


https://twitter.com/WaywardWinifred/status/1132790657221824512

What is so sickening about this?

A top member of an A-tier Presidential candidate's team endorsed an anti-semite for PM of a nuclear ally, either in ignorance or celebration of what that would mean for Jews both in the UK and globally.

[Zaybay]

I have to hand it to Monroe, he was able to turn a chat about British politics into a chat on Bernie Sanders.

Anyway, pretty pitiful results from the Euro Elections for both Labour and the Tories(though of course a GE would likely not provide similar results).

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

why are so many Americans unable to think about another country's politics outside the prism of their own country?

[James Monroe]

This tweet is downright sickening. How this person gets to run a presidential campaign is a question that deserves to be accounted for.


https://twitter.com/WaywardWinifred/status/1132790657221824512

What is so sickening about this?

I find it abhorrent that a campaign staffer of a Jewish politician would cheerleading for a international leader whose wants nothing more than to eliminate the Semitics from his country.