UK General Discussion: 2019 and onwards, The End of May

[Dereich]

With the SNP going against the Labour Customs Union, it seems safe to say that Britain will be going down the Brexit option.

There is no "Labour Customs Union" up for vote. I believe the official Labour position is still for their unicorn "CU with alignment with the single market but somehow no freedom of movement." Common Market 2.0 isn't the Labour plan. And anyway, the Ken Clarke CU plan has a decent chance of passing even without the SNP, who were never going to support it.

[Dereich]

Four votes today:

C (common market 2.0) is the same proposal that came close to passing last time.

D (customs union + single market) is supported by both Labour and SNP at the moment (SNP does not back  C)

E (confirmatory public vote) is the same force-referendum proposal as last time.

G (parliamentary supremacy) as an SNP proposal, which, if enacted, would force Parliament to choose directly between revoking Article 50 and No Deal if no agreement is reached by the 12th. This is the only one Labour is not supporting.

Why is the SNP not supporting C? It's probably what they want?

https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1111646559693877250

C is only the customs union. D is common market 2.0

[Dereich]

I thought for sure Customs Union and Common Market 2.0 would pass ... what happened  ?

Lots of Remainers didn't support them.  Both would have passed, for example, if the 11 TIGgers and four or five Lib Dems who voted against it had abstained.

I fear this was a mistake.

Basically remainders are trying to get rid of all options other than No Deal and Remain and then force a choice between them.

Of course that very choice was ALSO rejected in today's votes.

The only kind of Brexit Parliament ever agreed to was the "withdraw agreement after you go to the EU and make them give us everything we want" Brady Amendment.

Now May has a 3 hour cabinet session tomorrow where she'll have part of the cabinet demanding no deal or else they'll tear the government apart, part of the cabinet demanding a soft Brexit or else they'll tear the government apart, and part of the cabinet saying that if she goes ahead and demands an election THEY'LL tear the government apart. Theresa May hasn't exactly done a good job, but with this Parliament I doubt anyone could have passed a deal  without losing a VoNC within the hour.

[Dereich]

And May continues to hang on, at least for a few more days.

She only needs to hang on a week to beat Gordon Brown's tenure in office.

Madness and stupidity from them. They should have stormed Downing Street and forced an unconditional resignation, it literally helps no one (particulary the cabinet candidates for PM) to continue this farce.

It's a prisoner's dilemma situation. Nobody wants May to hold on, but nobody wants to be seen as the person responsible for knifing her in the back. Either everyone needs to do it together (IE the 1922 Committee) or nobody will do it. And besides, why force her out today when you can force her out in a few days and unambiguously put the EU election results on her.