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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2019, 06:29:27 PM »

This is the best 2 days of Trump's presidency.

Honestly, this year so far has been pretty good for him. There was Covington, Jussie Smollett, the Mueller report, and now this. All of those things have vindicated Trump and his supporters, and that's all that matters to them. Sure, he lost the shutdown battle and came out empty-handed from his meeting with Kim. But none of that is relevant anymore with how fast the media cycle moves. Our only hope at this point (which is admittedly very likely) is that the media cycle quickly moves past this too and becomes irrelevant enough during the 2020 election. Americans' short attention spans may just backfire on Trump here...for once.
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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2019, 08:11:35 PM »

This is the best 2 days of Trump's presidency.

Honestly, this year so far has been pretty good for him. There was Covington, Jussie Smollett, the Mueller report, and now this. All of those things have vindicated Trump and his supporters, and that's all that matters to them. Sure, he lost the shutdown battle and came out empty-handed from his meeting with Kim. But none of that is relevant anymore with how fast the media cycle moves. Our only hope at this point (which is admittedly very likely) is that the media cycle quickly moves past this too and becomes irrelevant enough during the 2020 election. Americans' short attention spans may just backfire on Trump here...for once.

I don't disagree with the rest, but on this point--the only people who see Trump as vindicated by any of this are the people who already support him.
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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2019, 09:14:29 PM »



The real MAGA, lol!
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2019, 10:02:55 PM »

But seriously, good riddance. Not suprised at how this turned out at all.
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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2019, 04:09:54 AM »

*music from "Still Dre" starts playing*

Still less crooked than Hillary!
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« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2019, 04:46:57 AM »

The lawyer for one of the Kavanaugh accusers everybody.  The unreliable, emotionally unstable accuser who claimed Kavanaugh was engaged in a gang bang without any evidence.  This was the credible source used by numerous, so-called respectable, left-wing journalists from CNN to the New York Times, as well as Democrat politicians endeavoring to lose more credibility and integrity than Donald J. Trump.  A feat only surpassed by Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is likely run again in 2020 given that she has no aforementioned integrity. 
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« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2019, 08:46:11 AM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php
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« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2019, 11:19:06 AM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php

Not that it excuses his behavior, but he is an unindicted co-conspirator, so if you’re going to call him a criminal conspirator than you should refer to Trump the same way since he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator in a very serious criminal conspiracy which occurred at his [Trump’s] direction and may land him in jail in a few years depending on how the USAO for the Southern District’s investigation into said criminal conspiracy goes and whether Trump wins re-election (which matters for statute of limitations reasons). 
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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2019, 11:21:37 AM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php

Not that it excuses his behavior, but he is an unindicted co-conspirator, so if you’re going to call him a criminal conspirator than you should refer to Trump the same way since he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator in a very serious criminal conspiracy which occurred at his [Trump’s] direction and may land him in jail in a few years depending on how the USAO for the Southern District’s investigation into said criminal conspiracy goes and whether Trump wins re-election (which matters for statute of limitations reasons). 

False.  Trump was vindicated of the charges by Robert Mueller. Now we move on to the Clinton/Obama investigation.   
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« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2019, 12:45:12 PM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php

Not that it excuses his behavior, but he is an unindicted co-conspirator, so if you’re going to call him a criminal conspirator than you should refer to Trump the same way since he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator in a very serious criminal conspiracy which occurred at his [Trump’s] direction and may land him in jail in a few years depending on how the USAO for the Southern District’s investigation into said criminal conspiracy goes and whether Trump wins re-election (which matters for statute of limitations reasons). 

False.  Trump was vindicated of the charges by Robert Mueller. Now we move on to the Clinton/Obama investigation.   

He's not talking about Mueller lmao.
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« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2019, 01:43:42 PM »

Sounds like a witch hunt to me! The Trump Justice Department likely had him arrested on fake news.

After all, Trump did say that he was going out for revenge.
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« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2019, 03:22:25 PM »

Somewhere trump is laughing his ass off.
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« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2019, 10:17:59 PM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php

Not that it excuses his behavior, but he is an unindicted co-conspirator, so if you’re going to call him a criminal conspirator than you should refer to Trump the same way since he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator in a very serious criminal conspiracy which occurred at his [Trump’s] direction and may land him in jail in a few years depending on how the USAO for the Southern District’s investigation into said criminal conspiracy goes and whether Trump wins re-election (which matters for statute of limitations reasons). 

If Trump were an unindicted co-conspirator (A) there would have had to have been other indictments, and (B) Mueller would have had to have named him as such in the report, or have impaneled a Grand Jury that would so name Trump an unindicted co-conspirator.

Nixon was an unidicted co-conspirator in the cases against Haldeman and Ehrlichmann.  It can happen, but it didn't happen here, and Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2019, 10:26:46 PM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php

Not that it excuses his behavior, but he is an unindicted co-conspirator, so if you’re going to call him a criminal conspirator than you should refer to Trump the same way since he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator in a very serious criminal conspiracy which occurred at his [Trump’s] direction and may land him in jail in a few years depending on how the USAO for the Southern District’s investigation into said criminal conspiracy goes and whether Trump wins re-election (which matters for statute of limitations reasons). 

If Trump were an unindicted co-conspirator (A) there would have had to have been other indictments, and (B) Mueller would have had to have named him as such in the report, or have impaneled a Grand Jury that would so name Trump an unindicted co-conspirator.

Nixon was an unidicted co-conspirator in the cases against Haldeman and Ehrlichmann.  It can happen, but it didn't happen here, and Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Again, he isn't talking about the Muller probe.
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« Reply #39 on: March 27, 2019, 12:04:17 AM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php

Not that it excuses his behavior, but he is an unindicted co-conspirator, so if you’re going to call him a criminal conspirator than you should refer to Trump the same way since he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator in a very serious criminal conspiracy which occurred at his [Trump’s] direction and may land him in jail in a few years depending on how the USAO for the Southern District’s investigation into said criminal conspiracy goes and whether Trump wins re-election (which matters for statute of limitations reasons). 

If Trump were an unindicted co-conspirator (A) there would have had to have been other indictments, and (B) Mueller would have had to have named him as such in the report, or have impaneled a Grand Jury that would so name Trump an unindicted co-conspirator.

Nixon was an unidicted co-conspirator in the cases against Haldeman and Ehrlichmann.  It can happen, but it didn't happen here, and Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt.

I'm talking about the Southern District of New York's investigation into the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and the resulting cover-up Tongue
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« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2019, 05:55:57 AM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php

Not that it excuses his behavior, but he is an unindicted co-conspirator, so if you’re going to call him a criminal conspirator than you should refer to Trump the same way since he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator in a very serious criminal conspiracy which occurred at his [Trump’s] direction and may land him in jail in a few years depending on how the USAO for the Southern District’s investigation into said criminal conspiracy goes and whether Trump wins re-election (which matters for statute of limitations reasons). 

If Trump were an unindicted co-conspirator (A) there would have had to have been other indictments, and (B) Mueller would have had to have named him as such in the report, or have impaneled a Grand Jury that would so name Trump an unindicted co-conspirator.

Nixon was an unidicted co-conspirator in the cases against Haldeman and Ehrlichmann.  It can happen, but it didn't happen here, and Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt.

I'm talking about the Southern District of New York's investigation into the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and the resulting cover-up Tongue

Being an "unindicted co-conspirator" is a matter for a Grand Jury or a Prosecutor to allege.

Stormy Daniels is the last refuge of those who won't give it up.  It's a political issue at this point.  People can look at what it is and if they don't want to vote for Trump on that basis, well, that's Trump's problem. 
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« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2019, 06:23:55 AM »

Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos named as co-conspirator (lawyer for Jussie Smollet, Colin Kaepernick, Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, and others) https://www.thetelegraph.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Mark-Geragos-Dropped-by-CNN-After-Being-13715359.php

Not that it excuses his behavior, but he is an unindicted co-conspirator, so if you’re going to call him a criminal conspirator than you should refer to Trump the same way since he is currently an unindicted co-conspirator in a very serious criminal conspiracy which occurred at his [Trump’s] direction and may land him in jail in a few years depending on how the USAO for the Southern District’s investigation into said criminal conspiracy goes and whether Trump wins re-election (which matters for statute of limitations reasons). 

If Trump were an unindicted co-conspirator (A) there would have had to have been other indictments, and (B) Mueller would have had to have named him as such in the report, or have impaneled a Grand Jury that would so name Trump an unindicted co-conspirator.

Nixon was an unidicted co-conspirator in the cases against Haldeman and Ehrlichmann.  It can happen, but it didn't happen here, and Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt.

I'm talking about the Southern District of New York's investigation into the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and the resulting cover-up Tongue

Being an "unindicted co-conspirator" is a matter for a Grand Jury or a Prosecutor to allege.

Stormy Daniels is the last refuge of those who won't give it up.  It's a political issue at this point.  People can look at what it is and if they don't want to vote for Trump on that basis, well, that's Trump's problem. 

I *believe* Trump was formally identified by prosecutors.  In fairness to Trump supporters such as yourself, I’d be lying if I didn’t say some Democrats seem to be using the SDNY probe in a “last refuge of scoundrels” sort of way.  That said, it’s ultimately a legal issue rather than a political one.  Donald Trump Jr. and his father are both being investigated by federal prosecutors for their roles in a criminal conspiracy to commit felonious campaign finance violations, tax evasion, and bank fraud.  It’s possible one or both will be cleared or (after the 2020 election) charged for their alleged crimes.  We don’t know yet.  What we do know is that Trump was indentified as an unindicted co-conspirator and that Don Jr. is the “Executive 2” under investigation in this probe. 
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