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« on: March 19, 2019, 12:37:48 PM »

John James, a young black Midwesterner (from Michigan). He is black, served in the military.

He is married to a white woman (that may be a problem in a general election with black female voters, they don't like "Beckys")

Would the GOP base like John James?

Yes, he wouldn't want to offend a group that's going to vote 95% Democratic Roll Eyes

And it's true that the GOP base is filled with racists, but these people love black people who support Trump and his policies and basically act white - just look at the right's love for Diamond and Silk.

I'm genuinely curious. What do you think it means to "act white"?
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2019, 01:01:11 AM »

John James, a young black Midwesterner (from Michigan). He is black, served in the military.

He is married to a white woman (that may be a problem in a general election with black female voters, they don't like "Beckys")

Would the GOP base like John James?

Yes, he wouldn't want to offend a group that's going to vote 95% Democratic Roll Eyes

And it's true that the GOP base is filled with racists, but these people love black people who support Trump and his policies and basically act white - just look at the right's love for Diamond and Silk.

I'm genuinely curious. What do you think it means to "act white"?

That's a tricky question to answer, sort of like asking what the definition of porn is.

But... I would say that the average black (or Latina) Republican office seeker almost always has to have a super clean-cut image and say crazy sh!t to appeal to the base.


So, since I don't know any brown people who act like that, I'd say that's sort of acting white - or acting like they're not a "typical" member of their race, as seen in the classic trope of the "cool black guy" ala John James or, in a non political example, Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

So having a super clean-cut image is a trait attributed to white people? What an awfully racist thing to say.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2019, 04:47:46 PM »

John James, a young black Midwesterner (from Michigan). He is black, served in the military.

He is married to a white woman (that may be a problem in a general election with black female voters, they don't like "Beckys")

Would the GOP base like John James?

Yes, he wouldn't want to offend a group that's going to vote 95% Democratic Roll Eyes

And it's true that the GOP base is filled with racists, but these people love black people who support Trump and his policies and basically act white - just look at the right's love for Diamond and Silk.

I'm genuinely curious. What do you think it means to "act white"?

That's a tricky question to answer, sort of like asking what the definition of porn is.

But... I would say that the average black (or Latina) Republican office seeker almost always has to have a super clean-cut image and say crazy sh!t to appeal to the base.


So, since I don't know any brown people who act like that, I'd say that's sort of acting white - or acting like they're not a "typical" member of their race, as seen in the classic trope of the "cool black guy" ala John James or, in a non political example, Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

So having a super clean-cut image is a trait attributed to white people? What an awfully racist thing to say.

The main point I was making is that racist conservatives will vote for a clean-cut professional who just happens to be black, but if that candidate acted like the average black person does, those same voters would be saying all kinds of terrible things about said candidate.

How do you think the "average black person" acts?
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2019, 05:50:42 PM »

John James, a young black Midwesterner (from Michigan). He is black, served in the military.

He is married to a white woman (that may be a problem in a general election with black female voters, they don't like "Beckys")

Would the GOP base like John James?

Yes, he wouldn't want to offend a group that's going to vote 95% Democratic Roll Eyes

And it's true that the GOP base is filled with racists, but these people love black people who support Trump and his policies and basically act white - just look at the right's love for Diamond and Silk.

I'm genuinely curious. What do you think it means to "act white"?

That's a tricky question to answer, sort of like asking what the definition of porn is.

But... I would say that the average black (or Latina) Republican office seeker almost always has to have a super clean-cut image and say crazy sh!t to appeal to the base.


So, since I don't know any brown people who act like that, I'd say that's sort of acting white - or acting like they're not a "typical" member of their race, as seen in the classic trope of the "cool black guy" ala John James or, in a non political example, Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

So having a super clean-cut image is a trait attributed to white people? What an awfully racist thing to say.

The main point I was making is that racist conservatives will vote for a clean-cut professional who just happens to be black, but if that candidate acted like the average black person does, those same voters would be saying all kinds of terrible things about said candidate.

How do you think the "average black person" acts?

Not the way most black Republican politicians do.

C'mon. be descriptive. If you're gonna be racist, you might as well own it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2019, 07:27:15 AM »

I'm certainly not racist, in fact, I was originally just trying to say Republicans like their token black candidates, but somehow my brain went wrong and I started trying to say explain this further.

In hindsight, posting in this thread was a mistake and I probably didn't mean a lot of what I said.

Calling someone a token for simply not being in line where others in their group identify is also racist. People are allowed to have their own opinions, even if they differ from their racial identity's standard voting bloc. It's also not tokenism for others who make up the majority of the existing group to appreciate having some new faces in the mix that normally wouldn't be there. 
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