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« on: March 20, 2019, 10:43:00 PM »
It's obviously very unlikely, but what would the map look like for Trump against Pete Buttigieg?
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2019, 12:01:47 AM »
See 2012, give or take with Florida.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2019, 12:11:48 AM »
Probably 2008 with AZ swapped for IN, ironically enough.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM »
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2019, 12:17:25 AM »
Quote from: RI on March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2019, 12:18:34 AM »
Quote from: RI on March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump

>45% of the population would vote for any random person off the street over Trump. He can't "steamroll" anyone.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2019, 04:08:59 AM »
Quote from: RI on March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump

Yeah, no. If Pete becomes the nominee he'd be have universal name recognition, so that's not a factor. Until now he showed himself to be an absolutely fantastic candidate- relatable, inspiring and substantive. So there's no way Trump "steamrolls" him, and I'd say he wins.

Imo, the 2008 map minus IN, OH and IA and plus AZ.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2019, 01:21:10 PM »
Quote from: Parrotguy on March 21, 2019, 04:08:59 AM
Quote from: RI on March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump

Yeah, no. If Pete becomes the nominee he'd be have universal name recognition, so that's not a factor. Until now he showed himself to be an absolutely fantastic candidate- relatable, inspiring and substantive. So there's no way Trump "steamrolls" him, and I'd say he wins.

Imo, the 2008 map minus IN, OH and IA and plus AZ.

This, but I could definitely see Pete doing well in OH and IA.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2019, 01:22:42 PM »
About the same as any other map, although he would overperform (but likely not win) in Indiana, and being gay and inexperienced would cost him a point or two each. If the national environment isn't as bad for Trump in 2020 as it was in 2018, Buttigieg would be vulnerable to losing to Trump, although as of today, I would pick him to win.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2019, 01:43:22 PM »


This probably, abolishing the EC and court packing will not sit well with moderates

Also Trump has 244 EVs that he will pretty much win, Dems have 210 votes that they will win. This leaves 84 EVs up for grabs and against a radical like Buttigieg, Trump takes the lion's share.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2019, 01:54:44 PM »
Quote from: RI on March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump

Maybe if the election were tomorrow, but you do know he'd have a whole general election to campaign and get exposure, right? Not to mention BRTD's point where >45% of the country would easily vote for anyone against Trump.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2019, 02:00:24 PM »
Quote from: RI on March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump

I feel the need to point out that almost every college sports fan (beyond just the casual fans of their own school's teams) has heard of South Bend.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2019, 03:44:09 PM »
Quote from: Holmes on March 21, 2019, 01:54:44 PM
Quote from: RI on March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump

Maybe if the election were tomorrow, but you do know he'd have a whole general election to campaign and get exposure, right? Not to mention BRTD's point where >45% of the country would easily vote for anyone against Trump.

You don't have to get less than 45% of the vote to be steamrolled. if Buttigieg only got around that, Trump would flip Minnesota, New Hampshire, Nevada, and ME-AL from 2016.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2019, 06:37:38 PM »
He is on the upswing but I still don't think he would win. His name, his sexuality, and his youth would all be used against him; as unfair as it is.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2019, 10:18:52 PM »
« Edited: March 21, 2019, 10:24:57 PM by Bourbonfan »
^With, "his youth," were you referring more to inexperience, or do you literally think Buttigieg being younger would pose problems for him?
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2019, 10:21:34 PM »
Quote from: 90s Hippie on March 21, 2019, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: Holmes on March 21, 2019, 01:54:44 PM
Quote from: RI on March 21, 2019, 12:15:19 AM
Sorry, but a weird-named gay mayor of some town most people have never heard of would get steamrolled by Trump

Maybe if the election were tomorrow, but you do know he'd have a whole general election to campaign and get exposure, right? Not to mention BRTD's point where >45% of the country would easily vote for anyone against Trump.

You don't have to get less than 45% of the vote to be steamrolled. if Buttigieg only got around that, Trump would flip Minnesota, New Hampshire, Nevada, and ME-AL from 2016.

He'd get more than that though. He's far more likable than Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2019, 10:22:46 PM »
Quote from: Suburban New Jersey Conservative on March 21, 2019, 01:43:22 PM


This probably, abolishing the EC and court packing will not sit well with moderates

Also Trump has 244 EVs that he will pretty much win, Dems have 210 votes that they will win. This leaves 84 EVs up for grabs and against a radical like Buttigieg, Trump takes the lion's share.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-more-americans-believe-popular-vote-should-decide-the-president
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