Uncomfortable question: if Pete Buttigieg were straight?
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« on: March 22, 2019, 11:43:27 AM »
If Pete Buttigieg were straight would he still receive the same amount of attention as a candidate? I dare say him being the first openly gay candidate for a major party, and from Indiana of all places, certainly adds gravity to his run.
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2019, 11:52:46 AM »
Not initially. It got him on people’s radar but it’s not why he is continuing to get attention.There is actual substance keeping him relevant.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2019, 12:27:20 PM »
Nah.  He's got a funny name--that's enough to get media attention in our brain-dead age.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2019, 12:29:31 PM »
Quote from: Beto Bro on March 22, 2019, 11:52:46 AM
Not initially. It got him on people’s radar but it’s not why he is continuing to get attention.There is actual substance keeping him relevant.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2019, 01:18:27 PM »
Quote from: jeb_arlo on March 22, 2019, 12:27:20 PM
Nah.  He's got a funny name--that's enough to get media attention in our brain-dead age.

He speaks 6 or 7 languages fluently, including Norwegian, Arabic and Maltese. You're treating him as if he were as dumb as Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 01:31:10 PM »
Quote from: eric82oslo on March 22, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: jeb_arlo on March 22, 2019, 12:27:20 PM
Nah.  He's got a funny name--that's enough to get media attention in our brain-dead age.

He speaks 6 or 7 languages fluently, including Norwegian, Arabic and Maltese. You're treating him as if he were as dumb as Trump.

Not my intent.  By all accounts, Buttigieg is a brilliant individual, and I've seen nothing that would make me question that.  I'm just treating the American media market as if it were as dumb as Trump, which it mostly is.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2019, 01:44:09 PM »
Probably, though I doubt #buttmentum would be used as much.
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2019, 01:50:17 PM »
He would get a similar amount of attention, but the press would be negative. Without his historic candidacy, his radical positions would become the main story about his campaign. Those radical positions (like court packing and Electoral College abolition), would basically turn his candidacy into a joke
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2019, 01:59:27 PM »
Beto is a thing, so yes.
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2019, 04:59:17 PM »
He would just be a small town mayor. Nah.
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2019, 05:14:03 PM »
Definetely.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2019, 05:17:27 PM »
Of course not. The mayor of a city with a stagnant or otherwise declining population isn't interesting at all without a gimmick or identity politics.
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2019, 05:19:14 PM »
Buttigieg is like a quieter, multi-lingual Beto, with a husband instead of a wife.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2019, 07:20:47 PM »
Sort of. Mostly because him being heterosexual wouldn't have given him a rising star status to being with. Though if he did run anyway in that scenario, he probably would still be at the same level of support and on the come up as he is at now. That wouldn't change. He is receiving attention in spite of his sexuality. That was just what made him noteworthy before the primary began.
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2019, 08:07:54 PM »
Bullock, Beto and Buttileg are for SSM and Beto stands on SSM was a factor in TX Senate.
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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2019, 08:22:16 PM »
He's also a veteran, though that doesn't seem to be helping Gabbard, but that's also because of her own unique issues and failings.
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2019, 05:05:22 AM »
I’m gay.

I find Pete to be authentic but I think he comes across a bit weak.
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2019, 07:27:50 AM »
Quote from: Special K on March 23, 2019, 05:05:22 AM
I’m gay.

I find Pete to be authentic but I think he comes across a bit weak.

A bit weak in what sense?

I'm also gay, but I know in my heart that Andrew Yang's IQ is even higher than Buttigieg's.
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2019, 04:52:18 PM »
I would consider voting for him in the primary.
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2019, 05:02:48 PM »
He's a Harvard man. Of course he belongs. It would be much more interesting to ask a certain uncomfortable question about everyone's favourite cop.
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2019, 05:07:00 PM »
Probably wouldn’t be getting as much attention but he’s smart enough and articulate enough to have still gained traction.
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2019, 08:27:55 PM »
« Edited: March 23, 2019, 08:32:01 PM by Oashigo »
Quote from: Suburban New Jersey Conservative on March 22, 2019, 01:50:17 PM
He would get a similar amount of attention, but the press would be negative. Without his historic candidacy, his radical positions would become the main story about his campaign. Those radical positions (like court packing and Electoral College abolition), would basically turn his candidacy into a joke

Electoral college abolition is very popular with democrats and the public at large. It isn't a radical position. I assume all 2020 democrats support it.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-more-americans-believe-popular-vote-should-decide-the-president/
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2019, 12:17:15 PM »
He'd still get some coverage as a mayor like Larry Agran did but definitely less of it. He also wouldn't have as much support as he does, since his support seems to come disproportionately from gay men.
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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2019, 06:21:22 PM »
Quote from: Sentor MAINEiac4434 of Lincoln on March 23, 2019, 05:07:00 PM
Probably wouldn’t be getting as much attention but he’s smart enough and articulate enough to have still gained traction.
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2019, 08:54:18 AM »
Quote from: Suburban New Jersey Conservative on March 22, 2019, 01:50:17 PM
He would get a similar amount of attention, but the press would be negative. Without his historic candidacy, his radical positions would become the main story about his campaign. Those radical positions (like court packing and Electoral College abolition), would basically turn his candidacy into a joke

The majority of the country supports abolishing the EC and has for a while now.
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