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« Reply #450 on: March 26, 2019, 01:58:46 AM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.


Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.
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« Reply #451 on: March 26, 2019, 02:03:29 AM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.


Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.

Such a dodge.  Those convictions that had nothing to do with Russian collusion.  You know... the point of the special counsel.  That was the point.  That's what Democrats stated was the point.  Were you guys lying again?  I mean, if were going to prosecute people for lying to investigators, obstruction of justice, and collusion with Ukraine, the logical starting point is Hillary Clinton.  You know, that lady that's being investigated by the Ukrainian government for collusion.  
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« Reply #452 on: March 26, 2019, 02:40:39 AM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.


Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.

Such a dodge.  Those convictions that had nothing to do with Russian collusion.  You know... the point of the special counsel.  That was the point.  That's what Democrats stated was the point.  Were you guys lying again?  I mean, if were going to prosecute people for lying to investigators, obstruction of justice, and collusion with Ukraine, the logical starting point is Hillary Clinton.  You know, that lady that's being investigated by the Ukrainian government for collusion.  

I'm not a Democrat, nor part of the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crowd, nor do I think anyone involved in the 2016 election should be anywhere but behind bars. But your answer is exactly what you claim mine was--a dodge. "Nothing came of it" *points to things that actually came from it* "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't" is just more of the mindless moving of goalposts that's been coming from the brainwashed Trump crowd.
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« Reply #453 on: March 26, 2019, 02:51:13 AM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.


Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.

Such a dodge.  Those convictions that had nothing to do with Russian collusion.  You know... the point of the special counsel.  That was the point.  That's what Democrats stated was the point.  Were you guys lying again?  I mean, if were going to prosecute people for lying to investigators, obstruction of justice, and collusion with Ukraine, the logical starting point is Hillary Clinton.  You know, that lady that's being investigated by the Ukrainian government for collusion.  

I'm not a Democrat, nor part of the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crowd, nor do I think anyone involved in the 2016 election should be anywhere but behind bars. But your answer is exactly what you claim mine was--a dodge. "Nothing came of it" *points to things that actually came from it* "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't" is just more of the mindless moving of goalposts that's been coming from the brainwashed Trump crowd.

This thread is about collusion and obstruction of justice.  The investigation was about the Trump-Russia conspiracy.  It was predicated on the Trump-Russia collusion to influence the election.  That is topic of the thread.  That is the topic of investigation.  Everything else is BS.  I'm glad they charged the people that lied and worked on the behalf of the Ukrainians.  In the end, this investigation was a total farce.  We convicted small timers with crimes, while the Clintons committed the crimes at the center of this investigation; collusion with the Russians and Ukrainians to influence the U.S. elections.  The Democrats are the biggest threat to democracy in the U.S. elections and their own primaries, but we have to go along with this delusional conspiracy that Trump colluded with Russians. 
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« Reply #454 on: March 26, 2019, 02:54:30 AM »

This story is embarrassing for Democrats.  The left-wing media didn't just spread fake news about Trump-Russia conspiracies, they gave Pulitzers to reports that said it happened.
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« Reply #455 on: March 26, 2019, 03:02:28 AM »

Democrats before Mueller report: "We have to respect the conclusions of the Mueller report."

Democrats after Mueller report: "I fell like this is a cover up. We have to get the full report. No evidence of obstruction, but the report says this does not exonerate him"

Democrats before election: "Trump has to respect results of election."

Democrats after election: "The election was BS.  Hillary won the popular vote.  We need to get rid of the electoral college.  Change the rules.  We need to make illegal immigrants citizens.  We need to let convicts vote.  We need to ban conservative media."


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« Reply #456 on: March 26, 2019, 03:17:19 AM »

Democrats before Mueller report: "We have to respect the conclusions of the Mueller report."

Democrats after Mueller report: "I fell like this is a cover up. We have to get the full report. No evidence of obstruction, but the report says this does not exonerate him"
This isn't "after the report" though. The report is barely released and all we have right now is a Trump stooge who says it looks good for Trump. Why are you implying that we should just take his word on it? Trump and his cronies are practically setting new records for corruption every few weeks. We would be STUPID to not want to see the full report, and you know it, whether you admit it or not.

Democrats before election: "Trump has to respect results of election."

Democrats after election: "The election was BS.  Hillary won the popular vote.  We need to get rid of the electoral college.  Change the rules.  We need to make illegal immigrants citizens.  We need to let convicts vote.  We need to ban conservative media."
Saying the rules should be changed isn't the same thing as demanding Trump be thrown out and Hillary be put in. Again, you KNOW this.  The immigrant / convict thing is TOTALLY irrelevant and not even specific to the 2015/16 time period. The calls to ban conservative media are either from fringe SJWs who do not speak for Democrats, or from the imaginary voices in your head.
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« Reply #457 on: March 26, 2019, 03:20:56 AM »

CNN and MSNBC are very very pro-establishment corporatist centrists that are obsessed with presenting both sides of an argument and rarely calling out one side if their argument is garbage, which gives Trump cronies and spin doctors credibility they don't deserve.
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« Reply #458 on: March 26, 2019, 03:51:13 AM »

Hollywood looks like he blew a fuse after the Mueller report didn't give the exoneration he expected.
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« Reply #459 on: March 26, 2019, 04:10:17 AM »

Democrats before Mueller report: "We have to respect the conclusions of the Mueller report."

Democrats after Mueller report: "I fell like this is a cover up. We have to get the full report. No evidence of obstruction, but the report says this does not exonerate him"
This isn't "after the report" though. The report is barely released and all we have right now is a Trump stooge who says it looks good for Trump. Why are you implying that we should just take his word on it? Trump and his cronies are practically setting new records for corruption every few weeks. We would be STUPID to not want to see the full report, and you know it, whether you admit it or not.

Democrats before election: "Trump has to respect results of election."

Democrats after election: "The election was BS.  Hillary won the popular vote.  We need to get rid of the electoral college.  Change the rules.  We need to make illegal immigrants citizens.  We need to let convicts vote.  We need to ban conservative media."
Saying the rules should be changed isn't the same thing as demanding Trump be thrown out and Hillary be put in. Again, you KNOW this.  The immigrant / convict thing is TOTALLY irrelevant and not even specific to the 2015/16 time period. The calls to ban conservative media are either from fringe SJWs who do not speak for Democrats, or from the imaginary voices in your head.

Total nonsense.  The Democrats have been lying and conspiring over the last three years.  Clinton alone could be investigated for numerous collusion charges, and is currently being investigated in Ukraine for collusion to influence U.S. elections.  Every charge against Trump is just another crime that Democrats are violating.  The Mueller conclusion is that there is no collusion conspiracy that you guys have been peddling.  There is no evidence of obstruction of evidence.  Does this exonerate Trump?  No.  But it does make him innocent.  Because in the United States, you are innocent until proven guilty no matter what the Democrat traitors believe.  That's another one.  Innocent until proven guilty is a principle you guys hold until it rubs up against a partisan political case, like Trayvon Martin or Jussie Smollett.  Both fraud cases the Democrats heralded as examples of racism in America.  The latter being one that Kamala Harris endorsed.  She back a liar.  Guess it takes one to know one.

Clearly the stuff about immigration, convicts, and free speech were examples of Democrats crying and taking this ball home when they don't receive what they want.  The point about banning conservative media is well-document from the heyday of talk radio to the digital age of social media podcasts.  There has been a concerted effort between Democrats, left-wing radical, and left-wing conglomerates and syndicates to ban conservative free speech.  Sources abound.  More evidence of that then the ridiculous Trump-Russia conspiracy.
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« Reply #460 on: March 26, 2019, 04:24:53 AM »

CNN and MSNBC are very very pro-establishment corporatist centrists that are obsessed with presenting both sides of an argument and rarely calling out one side if their argument is garbage, which gives Trump cronies and spin doctors credibility they don't deserve.

They are left-wing democrats or corporate democrats.  I've explained this Democrats on this forum for three years.  They will never support increasing minimum wage, they never covered a war they didn't like, and they cover SJW/BLM issues without any regard for the truth (cause Hispanics and African Americans buy things to, and illegal immigrants work for less than minimum wage).  They are complete hacks that buy into anything that's good for the corporation at the expense of all American citizens.  It's not like Fox News isn't pro-corporation. But at least they tell you exactly where they stand and take a propagandist viewpoint.  However, they will always report the news.  CNN and MSNBC attempt to breath this air of neutrality and elite journalism, but always inject their bias and propaganda into every facet of their "news" reporting.  Under Trump, CNN, at least, is nothing more than NAZI style propaganda machine.  Anti-Trump conspiracy theory all day, everyday.  Then there is the occasional bold-faced lie every minute.  Once you hire the brother of a Democrat politician in New York and racist Don Lemon, you've pretty much signaled to the world that you have no credibility.  Nobody on Fox could get away with saying that black people are the biggest threat to America, but somehow it's okay for an anchor on racist CNN to say that white people are the biggest threat to America.  Neither black or white people are threats to America, but CNN surely is a threat.  There commercial speech is both hateful and violent.  It's no wonder they are being sued.  They deserve to go under.
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« Reply #461 on: March 26, 2019, 05:07:18 AM »

CNN and MSNBC are very very pro-establishment corporatist centrists that are obsessed with presenting both sides of an argument and rarely calling out one side if their argument is garbage, which gives Trump cronies and spin doctors credibility they don't deserve.

They are left-wing democrats or corporate democrats.  I've explained this Democrats on this forum for three years.  They will never support increasing minimum wage, they never covered a war they didn't like, and they cover SJW/BLM issues without any regard for the truth (cause Hispanics and African Americans buy things to, and illegal immigrants work for less than minimum wage).  They are complete hacks that buy into anything that's good for the corporation at the expense of all American citizens.  It's not like Fox News isn't pro-corporation. But at least they tell you exactly where they stand and take a propagandist viewpoint.  However, they will always report the news.  CNN and MSNBC attempt to breath this air of neutrality and elite journalism, but always inject their bias and propaganda into every facet of their "news" reporting.  Under Trump, CNN, at least, is nothing more than NAZI style propaganda machine.  Anti-Trump conspiracy theory all day, everyday.  Then there is the occasional bold-faced lie every minute.  Once you hire the brother of a Democrat politician in New York and racist Don Lemon, you've pretty much signaled to the world that you have no credibility.  Nobody on Fox could get away with saying that black people are the biggest threat to America, but somehow it's okay for an anchor on racist CNN to say that white people are the biggest threat to America.  Neither black or white people are threats to America, but CNN surely is a threat.  There commercial speech is both hateful and violent.  It's no wonder they are being sued.  They deserve to go under.
Don Lemon CLEARLY meant "of all the people who ARE doing mass shootings, of THAT GROUP, the majority is white, so PLEASE stop going on and on about MS-13.and ISIS supposedly being in the caravan and being a huge threat". It wss obvious if you watched the video where he said it. You won't admit it because then you can't twist it into.something that suits your cause.

You're right about the corporate Democrats and corporate news. But CNN is a hateful violent threat? And Fox News isn't? HA! It's also well within the First Amendment lilke Breitbart is, so suck a Lemon kiddo. I don't want to go on about Lemon and Cuomo too much, as it seems we could never find common ground. You fail (refuse) to consider things from several perspectives other than your own in order to evolve your position into a more thoughtful one. Thus is something intelligent people do on a regular basis. You seem possibly intelligent, so try it sometime.

Bottom line is this... if it was Obama, and an Obama cronie came out and said "this is what Mueller's report says", you wouldn't just take his word on it and that's end of story. (Once again) you obviously know that deep down.
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« Reply #462 on: March 26, 2019, 05:13:16 AM »

Clinton alone could be investigated for numerous collusion charges, and is currently being investigated in Ukraine for collusion to influence U.S. elections.  Every charge against Trump is just another crime that Democrats are violating.  The Mueller conclusion is that there is no collusion conspiracy that you guys have been peddling. 
If Mueller is assigned to investigate her collusion, I will be perfectly fine with it. It's not appropriate to be partisan about this kind of thing if it's a clean honest investigation and the results are made public. The innocent will hopefully be exonerated and the guilty will hopefully be exposed. Sometimes it falls in the middle and nothing comes of it. That's not ideal but acceptable.

Can YOU be non-partisan about it?
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« Reply #463 on: March 26, 2019, 05:16:24 AM »

We Democrats are no more credible or detestable than Nancy Grace.  Hope we win in 2020.  All of our candidates are now toxic, but hopefully white man, I mean Biden, will save us. 

Wait, is this clown pretending to be a Democrat?!
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« Reply #464 on: March 26, 2019, 05:20:41 AM »

This Hollywood fella is my kind of guy!
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« Reply #465 on: March 26, 2019, 10:14:19 AM »

CNN and MSNBC are very very pro-establishment corporatist centrists that are obsessed with presenting both sides of an argument and rarely calling out one side if their argument is garbage, which gives Trump cronies and spin doctors credibility they don't deserve.

They are left-wing democrats or corporate democrats.  I've explained this Democrats on this forum for three years.  They will never support increasing minimum wage, they never covered a war they didn't like, and they cover SJW/BLM issues without any regard for the truth (cause Hispanics and African Americans buy things to, and illegal immigrants work for less than minimum wage).  They are complete hacks that buy into anything that's good for the corporation at the expense of all American citizens.  It's not like Fox News isn't pro-corporation. But at least they tell you exactly where they stand and take a propagandist viewpoint.  However, they will always report the news.  CNN and MSNBC attempt to breath this air of neutrality and elite journalism, but always inject their bias and propaganda into every facet of their "news" reporting.  Under Trump, CNN, at least, is nothing more than NAZI style propaganda machine.  Anti-Trump conspiracy theory all day, everyday.  Then there is the occasional bold-faced lie every minute.  Once you hire the brother of a Democrat politician in New York and racist Don Lemon, you've pretty much signaled to the world that you have no credibility.  Nobody on Fox could get away with saying that black people are the biggest threat to America, but somehow it's okay for an anchor on racist CNN to say that white people are the biggest threat to America.  Neither black or white people are threats to America, but CNN surely is a threat.  There commercial speech is both hateful and violent.  It's no wonder they are being sued.  They deserve to go under.
Don Lemon CLEARLY meant "of all the people who ARE doing mass shootings, of THAT GROUP, the majority is white, so PLEASE stop going on and on about MS-13.and ISIS supposedly being in the caravan and being a huge threat". It wss obvious if you watched the video where he said it. You won't admit it because then you can't twist it into.something that suits your cause.

You're right about the corporate Democrats and corporate news. But CNN is a hateful violent threat? And Fox News isn't? HA! It's also well within the First Amendment lilke Breitbart is, so suck a Lemon kiddo. I don't want to go on about Lemon and Cuomo too much, as it seems we could never find common ground. You fail (refuse) to consider things from several perspectives other than your own in order to evolve your position into a more thoughtful one. Thus is something intelligent people do on a regular basis. You seem possibly intelligent, so try it sometime.

Bottom line is this... if it was Obama, and an Obama cronie came out and said "this is what Mueller's report says", you wouldn't just take his word on it and that's end of story. (Once again) you obviously know that deep down.

Wow.  I love how you just make all these assumptions to place yourself on a pedestal above the world.  Yeah man.  You're a four dimensional free thinker spinning around into different multiverse on a unicorn with wings.  You got it going on. 

First, it doesn’t matter how Don Lemon meant it, and you know damn well that context wouldn’t matter to Don Lemon or any of the other Democrat zombies if the shoe was on the other foot.  In this regard, they show a complete lack of empathy or understanding.   At the end of the day, this is the only move they’ve got.  Then we come to Asians that are being discriminate against colleges due to their impressive intelligence and discipline, which Democrats find acceptable in favor of a more preferable minority.  And of course I recognize the racial hatred and discrimination that occurs in the conservative-wing of the country.  I don’t excuse it and will condemn almost 100% of times, but I expect Dems to do the exact same thing, and hold other groups to this standard.  The hypocrisy is disgusting and needs to stop.  It costs elections. 

Oh and let’s talk about all the mass shootings.  Every day I go outside and there’s a mass shooting.  You know the number of people that died from mass shootings is 1,216……….. between 1967 and May 2018.  Fifty years of a hysterical media yelling and screaming about all these crazy white mass shooters that have killed less than 50% the people that died on September 11. That’s right.  An average of these years yields 24 deaths from mass shootings out of the 15,696 killings each year.   Oh the humanity.   Despite these mass shooting, white people kill less people at a rate that’s 50% less than the national average.

Yes.  CNN is a source of hatred and violence. They constantly pour lighter fluid on race relations in our country, desperately breathing life into any story that will enrage racial groups whether or not its true.  They’ve done it ever since I’ve flicked to their channel.   

If this was Obama, I would have taken the word of a former Bush Administration official leading a special counsel.  The same should have been done with Clinton, but the Democrats are too entrenched in corruption to take these steps.  I was even willing to let Clinton go.  As the days pass, more information reveals Trump’s innocence and media derangement, and condemns Clinton as POS that did everything Democrats alleged Trump  had done. 

I view all perspectives.   I’ve been a Republican and I’ve been a Democrat.  Both parties are giant turd balls.  Democrats crossed a line.  This McCarthyism BS doesn’t fly.   
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« Reply #466 on: March 26, 2019, 11:37:48 AM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.

Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.

Such a dodge.  Those convictions that had nothing to do with Russian collusion.  You know... the point of the special counsel.  That was the point.  That's what Democrats stated was the point.  Were you guys lying again?  I mean, if were going to prosecute people for lying to investigators, obstruction of justice, and collusion with Ukraine, the logical starting point is Hillary Clinton.  You know, that lady that's being investigated by the Ukrainian government for collusion.  

I'm not a Democrat, nor part of the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crowd, nor do I think anyone involved in the 2016 election should be anywhere but behind bars. But your answer is exactly what you claim mine was--a dodge. "Nothing came of it" *points to things that actually came from it* "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't" is just more of the mindless moving of goalposts that's been coming from the brainwashed Trump crowd.

This thread is about collusion and obstruction of justice.  The investigation was about the Trump-Russia conspiracy.  It was predicated on the Trump-Russia collusion to influence the election.  That is topic of the thread.  That is the topic of investigation.  Everything else is BS.  I'm glad they charged the people that lied and worked on the behalf of the Ukrainians.  In the end, this investigation was a total farce.  We convicted small timers with crimes, while the Clintons committed the crimes at the center of this investigation; collusion with the Russians and Ukrainians to influence the U.S. elections.  The Democrats are the biggest threat to democracy in the U.S. elections and their own primaries, but we have to go along with this delusional conspiracy that Trump colluded with Russians. 

LOL.
First off, this thread is about the Mueller report. Mueller was given wide authority and the investigation's scope included "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."
Let's not forget that six close trump campaign associates were indicted due to Mueller, and I hope they enjoy their jail time and/or other penalties.
Hammy has it right about your "brainwashed" mentality on "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't."
Besides, in one breath you say it's only about trump-Russia, and in another you go on talking about Hillary-Russia-Ukraine. Make up your mind.
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« Reply #467 on: March 26, 2019, 11:48:43 AM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.

Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.

Such a dodge.  Those convictions that had nothing to do with Russian collusion.  You know... the point of the special counsel.  That was the point.  That's what Democrats stated was the point.  Were you guys lying again?  I mean, if were going to prosecute people for lying to investigators, obstruction of justice, and collusion with Ukraine, the logical starting point is Hillary Clinton.  You know, that lady that's being investigated by the Ukrainian government for collusion.  

I'm not a Democrat, nor part of the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crowd, nor do I think anyone involved in the 2016 election should be anywhere but behind bars. But your answer is exactly what you claim mine was--a dodge. "Nothing came of it" *points to things that actually came from it* "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't" is just more of the mindless moving of goalposts that's been coming from the brainwashed Trump crowd.

This thread is about collusion and obstruction of justice.  The investigation was about the Trump-Russia conspiracy.  It was predicated on the Trump-Russia collusion to influence the election.  That is topic of the thread.  That is the topic of investigation.  Everything else is BS.  I'm glad they charged the people that lied and worked on the behalf of the Ukrainians.  In the end, this investigation was a total farce.  We convicted small timers with crimes, while the Clintons committed the crimes at the center of this investigation; collusion with the Russians and Ukrainians to influence the U.S. elections.  The Democrats are the biggest threat to democracy in the U.S. elections and their own primaries, but we have to go along with this delusional conspiracy that Trump colluded with Russians. 

LOL.
First off, this thread is about the Mueller report. Mueller was given wide authority and the investigation's scope included "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."
Let's not forget that six close trump campaign associates were indicted due to Mueller, and I hope they enjoy their jail time and/or other penalties.
Hammy has it right about your "brainwashed" mentality on "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't."
Besides, in one breath you say it's only about trump-Russia, and in another you go on talking about Hillary-Russia-Ukraine. Make up your mind.

Nothing to do with Russian collusion or obstruction of justice.  This was a witch hunt that yielded very little.  Nothing close to the conspiracy you concocted.  It's time to chance the Democrat colors to tin foil.  It's over.  Now let's move on to the investigation of the Democrats, which appears more fruitful than the Trump-Russia conspiracy. 
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« Reply #468 on: March 26, 2019, 11:49:02 AM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.

Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.

Such a dodge.  Those convictions that had nothing to do with Russian collusion.  You know... the point of the special counsel.  That was the point.  That's what Democrats stated was the point.  Were you guys lying again?  I mean, if were going to prosecute people for lying to investigators, obstruction of justice, and collusion with Ukraine, the logical starting point is Hillary Clinton.  You know, that lady that's being investigated by the Ukrainian government for collusion.  

I'm not a Democrat, nor part of the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crowd, nor do I think anyone involved in the 2016 election should be anywhere but behind bars. But your answer is exactly what you claim mine was--a dodge. "Nothing came of it" *points to things that actually came from it* "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't" is just more of the mindless moving of goalposts that's been coming from the brainwashed Trump crowd.

This thread is about collusion and obstruction of justice.  The investigation was about the Trump-Russia conspiracy.  It was predicated on the Trump-Russia collusion to influence the election.  That is topic of the thread.  That is the topic of investigation.  Everything else is BS.  I'm glad they charged the people that lied and worked on the behalf of the Ukrainians.  In the end, this investigation was a total farce.  We convicted small timers with crimes, while the Clintons committed the crimes at the center of this investigation; collusion with the Russians and Ukrainians to influence the U.S. elections.  The Democrats are the biggest threat to democracy in the U.S. elections and their own primaries, but we have to go along with this delusional conspiracy that Trump colluded with Russians. 

LOL.
First off, this thread is about the Mueller report. Mueller was given wide authority and the investigation's scope included "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."
Let's not forget that six close trump campaign associates were indicted due to Mueller, and I hope they enjoy their jail time and/or other penalties.
Hammy has it right about your "brainwashed" mentality on "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't."
Besides, in one breath you say it's only about trump-Russia, and in another you go on talking about Hillary-Russia-Ukraine. Make up your mind.

As the thread creator, I'm amused to see him try to redefine it.  It's titled "Mueller report thread" because that's what it's intended for.
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« Reply #469 on: March 26, 2019, 11:54:45 AM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.

Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.

Such a dodge.  Those convictions that had nothing to do with Russian collusion.  You know... the point of the special counsel.  That was the point.  That's what Democrats stated was the point.  Were you guys lying again?  I mean, if were going to prosecute people for lying to investigators, obstruction of justice, and collusion with Ukraine, the logical starting point is Hillary Clinton.  You know, that lady that's being investigated by the Ukrainian government for collusion.  

I'm not a Democrat, nor part of the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crowd, nor do I think anyone involved in the 2016 election should be anywhere but behind bars. But your answer is exactly what you claim mine was--a dodge. "Nothing came of it" *points to things that actually came from it* "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't" is just more of the mindless moving of goalposts that's been coming from the brainwashed Trump crowd.

This thread is about collusion and obstruction of justice.  The investigation was about the Trump-Russia conspiracy.  It was predicated on the Trump-Russia collusion to influence the election.  That is topic of the thread.  That is the topic of investigation.  Everything else is BS.  I'm glad they charged the people that lied and worked on the behalf of the Ukrainians.  In the end, this investigation was a total farce.  We convicted small timers with crimes, while the Clintons committed the crimes at the center of this investigation; collusion with the Russians and Ukrainians to influence the U.S. elections.  The Democrats are the biggest threat to democracy in the U.S. elections and their own primaries, but we have to go along with this delusional conspiracy that Trump colluded with Russians. 

LOL.
First off, this thread is about the Mueller report. Mueller was given wide authority and the investigation's scope included "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."
Let's not forget that six close trump campaign associates were indicted due to Mueller, and I hope they enjoy their jail time and/or other penalties.
Hammy has it right about your "brainwashed" mentality on "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't."
Besides, in one breath you say it's only about trump-Russia, and in another you go on talking about Hillary-Russia-Ukraine. Make up your mind.

As the thread creator, I'm amused to see him try to redefine it.  It's titled "Mueller report thread" because that's what it's intended for.

Okay let's stick to the topic of the soon to be released Mueller report.  Apparently a summary of the document found no evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, nor did he obstruct justice.  It looks like a pretty big conspiracy theory.  I guess at this point you could cross your fingers in hopes you might find something desperate to hold onto.
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« Reply #470 on: March 26, 2019, 12:02:40 PM »

I'd just like to point out that the ahugecat precedent is still in effect. Threads in general but much more regarding community megathreads surrounding elections or major events are for community discussion and not just one user to monopolize the entire space to aggressively push their point of view. Emphasis on aggressively and monopolize.
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« Reply #471 on: March 26, 2019, 12:03:43 PM »

How do you have time for this, Hollywood?
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« Reply #472 on: March 26, 2019, 12:06:07 PM »


This is my one day off.  I'm sorry for taking over the thread and ruining the good times for everyone.  I just let it rip sometimes.  I'll hold back. 
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« Reply #473 on: March 26, 2019, 12:20:58 PM »

I feel like posting this again, just because:

Why are Republicans acting like there isn't still at least a dozen other investigations and lawsuits aimed at Trump's myriad misdeeds and acts of corruption?  You guys are taking a victory lap half-way through the race!
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« Reply #474 on: March 26, 2019, 12:46:48 PM »

2+ years of the Mueller investigation yields nothing, but the Ukranian AG finds tangible evidence against Hillary Clinton of collusion with a Ukranian citizen to influence the U.S. elections.

Ah yes, we must've all collectively imagined those multiple convictions that came out of the Mueller investigation.

Such a dodge.  Those convictions that had nothing to do with Russian collusion.  You know... the point of the special counsel.  That was the point.  That's what Democrats stated was the point.  Were you guys lying again?  I mean, if were going to prosecute people for lying to investigators, obstruction of justice, and collusion with Ukraine, the logical starting point is Hillary Clinton.  You know, that lady that's being investigated by the Ukrainian government for collusion.  

I'm not a Democrat, nor part of the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crowd, nor do I think anyone involved in the 2016 election should be anywhere but behind bars. But your answer is exactly what you claim mine was--a dodge. "Nothing came of it" *points to things that actually came from it* "Oh that doesn't count because I say it doesn't" is just more of the mindless moving of goalposts that's been coming from the brainwashed Trump crowd.

This thread is about collusion and obstruction of justice.  The investigation was about the Trump-Russia conspiracy.  It was predicated on the Trump-Russia collusion to influence the election.  That is topic of the thread.  That is the topic of investigation.  Everything else is BS.  I'm glad they charged the people that lied and worked on the behalf of the Ukrainians.  In the end, this investigation was a total farce.  We convicted small timers with crimes, while the Clintons committed the crimes at the center of this investigation; collusion with the Russians and Ukrainians to influence the U.S. elections.  The Democrats are the biggest threat to democracy in the U.S. elections and their own primaries, but we have to go along with this delusional conspiracy that Trump colluded with Russians. 

LOL.
First off, this thread is about the Mueller report. Mueller was given wide authority and the investigation's scope included "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."
Let's not forget that six close trump campaign associates were indicted due to Mueller, and I hope they enjoy their jail time and/or other penalties.

What were those six associates indicted for?

Oh right, five were indicted for "providing incorrect information to the FBI". Their "crimes" were only meaningful if Trump really was colluding with Russia. Otherwise, you've just convicted bunch of people who either forgot about or lied about utterly innocuous information. This is the sort of thing the ACLU used to flip out about but you won't find them dead standing up for Trump associates. Regardless, I wouldn't give great odds of a conviction for anyone who hasn't (stupidly, imo) pled guilty already. My guess is that Roger Stone will be just fine now that the heat is off Trump.

The only real criminal, Manafort, was guilty of tax evasion and corruption in an entirely different country well before being hired by Trump. So this entire investigation found a single crook with a shady past in the Trump campaign. That isn't a great result, considering you could investigate literally any administration over the past 50 years and find a few crooks. Bush alone had several exposed even without a Special Prosecutor chasing him.
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