SB17-01: Terrorism and Piracy Act (Passed)
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Lumine
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« on: April 09, 2019, 12:00:07 AM »
« edited: May 20, 2019, 01:51:05 AM by Lumine »

Quote from: Final House Text
Terrorism and Piracy Act

HOUSE BILL


To defend Atlasians from terrorism and piracy on the homeland and on the shores

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SECTION I: NAME
1. This act shall be referred to as the Terrorism and Piracy Act.

SECTION II: STOPPING THE BAD GUYS
1. The Authorization of Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed "DATE" is hereby amended to expressly prioritize the rights of Atlasian citizens except during immient danger.
2. 18 USC 1661 shall be amended as such:
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Whoever, being engaged in any piratical cruise or enterprise, or being of the crew of any piratical vessel, lands from such vessel and commits robbery on shore or within twelve (12) miles of the shore, is a pirate, and shall be imprisoned for life.

SECTION III: TIMING
This law shall take effect immediately.
People's House of Representatives
Passed 9-0-0 in the People's House Assembled,


Sponsor: Vern
Designation: If I understand the new rules correctly, this is SB17-01 unless we're re-numbering past bills, right?
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2019, 12:00:41 AM »

I'll need Yankee's greenlight to be sure the number is not wrong (it probably is), but in the meantime this needs a sponsor.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2019, 09:28:00 PM »

I'll sponsor
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2019, 06:01:44 PM »

Vern is recognized as sponsor. Any comments on the bill, Senators?
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2019, 06:38:37 PM »

Isn't life imprisonment a bit harsh for piracy? I think a smaller punishment (like say, 12 years in prison) should be fine. Of course if they murder someone while commiting piracy that does add up to life imprisonment
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2019, 06:47:53 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2019, 06:56:24 AM by Mr. Reactionary »

Isn't life imprisonment a bit harsh for piracy? I think a smaller punishment (like say, 12 years in prison) should be fine. Of course if they murder someone while commiting piracy that does add up to life imprisonment

The unique thing about true piracy is that it violently exploits captive victims who are trapped on a boat and are especially vulnerable. Its not that they are stealing, they are purposely endangering the lives of everyone on a victim boat. Since that particular punishment is irl law already and we are not in anyway making the penalty itself more severe, I'm hesitant to turn a bill designed to stamp out piracy into a bill designed to sympathize with pirates. Irl we elect to extradite most of the pirates we capture to other countries which should eliminate some of the existing sentence concern.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2019, 08:52:23 AM »

Isn't life imprisonment a bit harsh for piracy? I think a smaller punishment (like say, 12 years in prison) should be fine. Of course if they murder someone while commiting piracy that does add up to life imprisonment

The unique thing about true piracy is that it violently exploits captive victims who are trapped on a boat and are especially vulnerable. Its not that they are stealing, they are purposely endangering the lives of everyone on a victim boat. Since that particular punishment is irl law already and we are not in anyway making the penalty itself more severe, I'm hesitant to turn a bill designed to stamp out piracy into a bill designed to sympathize with pirates. Irl we elect to extradite most of the pirates we capture to other countries which should eliminate some of the existing sentence concern.

Fair enough.

I'm also kind of surprised at the fact that Atlasia is not a signer of the LOTST and that this law could make other countries angry, but they aren't huge concerns in any case.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2019, 04:25:17 PM »

It's been ten days, gentlemen. I'll push for a vote on this soon if there aren't further comments.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2019, 04:33:39 PM »

What is the "DATE" thing specified in the bill? Shouldn't we specify some date there or is that up to the president?
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2019, 04:47:14 PM »

What is the "DATE" thing specified in the bill? Shouldn't we specify some date there or is that up to the president?

I forgot to add the date. Its September 14, 2001.

Thought the House fixed it. Looks like it fell through the cracks. This was specifically referring to the "War on Terrorism" blanket grant of war powers.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2019, 01:07:21 PM »

Can a Senator please sponsor the below amendment? Once amended, this should immediately be brought to a vote.

Quote from: Amended Senate Version
Terrorism and Piracy Act

HOUSE BILL


To defend Atlasians from terrorism and piracy on the homeland and on the shores

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SECTION I: NAME
1. This act shall be referred to as the Terrorism and Piracy Act.

SECTION II: STOPPING THE BAD GUYS
1. The Authorization of Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed on September 14, 2001, is hereby amended to expressly prioritize the rights of Atlasian citizens except during immient danger.
2. 18 USC 1661 shall be amended as such:
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Whoever, being engaged in any piratical cruise or enterprise, or being of the crew of any piratical vessel, lands from such vessel and commits robbery on shore or within twelve (12) miles of the shore, is a pirate, and shall be imprisoned for life.

SECTION III: TIMING
This law shall take effect immediately.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2019, 01:08:07 PM »

Can a Senator please sponsor the below amendment? Once amended, this should immediately be brought to a vote.

Quote from: Amended Senate Version
Terrorism and Piracy Act

HOUSE BILL


To defend Atlasians from terrorism and piracy on the homeland and on the shores

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SECTION I: NAME
1. This act shall be referred to as the Terrorism and Piracy Act.

SECTION II: STOPPING THE BAD GUYS
1. The Authorization of Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed on September 14, 2011, is hereby amended to expressly prioritize the rights of Atlasian citizens except during immient danger.
2. 18 USC 1661 shall be amended as such:
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Whoever, being engaged in any piratical cruise or enterprise, or being of the crew of any piratical vessel, lands from such vessel and commits robbery on shore or within twelve (12) miles of the shore, is a pirate, and shall be imprisoned for life.

SECTION III: TIMING
This law shall take effect immediately.

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2019, 01:08:30 PM »

Edited, thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2019, 04:05:21 PM »

I’ll sponsor the amendment.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2019, 10:18:14 PM »

The amendment has been adopted.
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2019, 09:35:10 PM »

Since a new session has started, does anyone have any feedback before sending this to a final vote?
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2019, 09:58:39 PM »

I voted for this in the House, and I still support this.
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2019, 02:43:55 AM »

I'll be giving 48 hours for final feedback and then we'll move into a final vote assuming there's no amendments or a wish for extra debate.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2019, 09:59:01 PM »

I'll be giving 48 hours for final feedback and then we'll move into a final vote assuming there's no amendments or a wish for extra debate.

That's a rather long 48 hours I must say.
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2019, 11:44:18 PM »

I'll be giving 48 hours for final feedback and then we'll move into a final vote assuming there's no amendments or a wish for extra debate.

That's a rather long 48 hours I must say.

Aye, I have the most unusual perception of time in the entire Republic.

Gentlemen, a vote is open. Please vote AYE, NAY or ABSTAIN.
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2019, 12:04:26 PM »

Aye!
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2019, 05:25:47 PM »

Aye!
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2019, 06:57:31 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2019, 07:28:56 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2019, 07:38:52 PM »

Aye
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