Ilhan Omar describes the 9/11 attack “as some people who did something”

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

And how do you believe it got to be that way?

[fhtagn]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Do you even know anything about Somalia? I'm being completely serious in asking this.

If you don't think Somalia is a sh*thole country, feel free to relocate there.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

And how do you believe it got to be that way?

A combination of Siad Barre’s failed socialist policies and imperialistic American aggression. In other words, the agenda of the modern Democratic Party?

[DrScholl]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

Attacking someone for their ethnicity when you have no argument, the easiest way to spot a lost cause racist hack. Go get better arguments after you crawl out of the toxicity of Cthulhu’s derrière.

It is a statement of facts to call Somalia a trash pit. And our country has obviously shown her much more kindness than her birthplace ever has, or else she wouldn't be here.

If you think pointing out the truth is "racist" (which is hilarious considering I made NO mention of her race), you need help.

Semantics. Your statement was bigoted.

I'd take your use of (as well as the use of it by others) "bigoted" seriously if red avvies like yourself didn't use it to simply mean "things we disagree with".

Oh, sweetheart your act is old. I don't call everyone who disagrees with me bigoted. I call out ridiculous people.

[DrScholl]

On another note, Somalia had no government for many years so I don't know why conservatives have a problem with it since they think government shouldn't exist. It was the perfect model for conservatism.

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

On another note, Somalia had no government for many years so I don't know why conservatives have a problem with it since they think government shouldn't exist. It was the perfect model for conservatism.

Surely it's the perfect model for non conservatives. Theres nothing to conserve.

[JA]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

An objective claim is a statement about a factual matter-one that can be proved true or false. For factual matters there exist widely recognized criteria and methods to determine whether a claim is true or false. A subjective claim, on the other hand, is not a factual matter; it is an expression of belief, opinion, or personal preference. A subjective claim cannot be proved right or wrong by any generally accepted criteria.

You'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I do find that Omar is totally ungrateful at this nation when the fact is people like her should be among the most grateful. They gave her refuge , opportunity, and freedom that she would never have gotten in Somalia yet all she does is attacks this nation.


 

[Wazza [INACTIVE]]

On another note, Somalia had no government for many years so I don't know why conservatives have a problem with it since they think government shouldn't exist. It was the perfect model for conservatism.

"I call out ridiculous people."

"Conservatives think the government shouldn't exist."

...

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

gotta watch out for those indefinite pronouns

[fhtagn]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

An objective claim is a statement about a factual matter-one that can be proved true or false. For factual matters there exist widely recognized criteria and methods to determine whether a claim is true or false. A subjective claim, on the other hand, is not a factual matter; it is an expression of belief, opinion, or personal preference. A subjective claim cannot be proved right or wrong by any generally accepted criteria.

You'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

I think you need to take your own advice.

[JA]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

An objective claim is a statement about a factual matter-one that can be proved true or false. For factual matters there exist widely recognized criteria and methods to determine whether a claim is true or false. A subjective claim, on the other hand, is not a factual matter; it is an expression of belief, opinion, or personal preference. A subjective claim cannot be proved right or wrong by any generally accepted criteria.

You'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

I think you need to take your own advice.

Those are objective facts, sure. But, they're being ascribed subjective value.

Again, you'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

[fhtagn]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

An objective claim is a statement about a factual matter-one that can be proved true or false. For factual matters there exist widely recognized criteria and methods to determine whether a claim is true or false. A subjective claim, on the other hand, is not a factual matter; it is an expression of belief, opinion, or personal preference. A subjective claim cannot be proved right or wrong by any generally accepted criteria.

You'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

I think you need to take your own advice.

Those are objective facts, sure. But, they're being ascribed subjective value.

Again, you'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

The point still stands that Somalia is objectively a sh*thole country, and all factual evidence proves this. Trying to argue otherwise speaks more about what you need to learn than anything.

As I said to ProudModerare2 earlier in this thread, if you think Somalia is so great, go ahead and relocate there. Let us know what you think.

[7,052,770]

The point still stands that Somalia is objectively a sh*thole country, and all factual evidence proves this. Trying to argue otherwise speaks more about what you need to learn than anything.

As I said to ProudModerare2 earlier in this thread, if you think Somalia is so great, go ahead and relocate there. Let us know what you think.

You realize there's a HUGE gap between "sh**thole" and "so great," right?

Like obviously Somalia is one of the "worst" countries in the world by most objective measures, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a "sh**thole." That's the point people are trying to make and you are flippantly ignoring.

[Wazza [INACTIVE]]

Well... 39% of Somalis do defecate in public according to the World Bank, so you could say the place is quite "sh**tty"

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.ODFC.ZS?end=2015&start=2000&view=chart&year_high_desc=true

[T'Chenka]

Her statement was basically saying that some Muslims did something that all Muslims essentially got blamed for. That's not at all untrue, because after 9/11 you did have Muslims being attacked and even Sikhs were attacked after being mistaken for Muslims.

She described the 9/11 attacks "as some people who did something"

Conservatives in 2019 trying desperately to win their BS arguments: "CONTEXT DOESN'T MATTER!!!"

Yoy're a smarter and better poster than this. I expect more from you.

[DrScholl]

On another note, Somalia had no government for many years so I don't know why conservatives have a problem with it since they think government shouldn't exist. It was the perfect model for conservatism.

"I call out ridiculous people."

"Conservatives think the government shouldn't exist."

...

You're right, I am wrong. Conservatives are pro-government when it comes to abortion, gay marriage and other social issues.

[T'Chenka]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

An objective claim is a statement about a factual matter-one that can be proved true or false. For factual matters there exist widely recognized criteria and methods to determine whether a claim is true or false. A subjective claim, on the other hand, is not a factual matter; it is an expression of belief, opinion, or personal preference. A subjective claim cannot be proved right or wrong by any generally accepted criteria.

You'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

I think you need to take your own advice.

Those are objective facts, sure. But, they're being ascribed subjective value.

Again, you'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

The point still stands that Somalia is objectively a sh*thole country, and all factual evidence proves this. Trying to argue otherwise speaks more about what you need to learn than anything.

As I said to ProudModerare2 earlier in this thread, if you think Somalia is so great, go ahead and relocate there. Let us know what you think.

Let's hypothetically just give you this one. You win, you're right, we lose, we're wrong.

Somalia being a s___hole doesn't mean Somalians or Somalian-born people or Somalian-DNA people are inherently s___hole people. That's a whole seperate thing that you're trying to low-key imply, that you can't possibly prove with evidence.

[Joe Republic]

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

And dismissively describing it as a sh**thole is a great way to help the people who live there, of course.

[fhtagn]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

An objective claim is a statement about a factual matter-one that can be proved true or false. For factual matters there exist widely recognized criteria and methods to determine whether a claim is true or false. A subjective claim, on the other hand, is not a factual matter; it is an expression of belief, opinion, or personal preference. A subjective claim cannot be proved right or wrong by any generally accepted criteria.

You'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

I think you need to take your own advice.

Those are objective facts, sure. But, they're being ascribed subjective value.

Again, you'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

The point still stands that Somalia is objectively a sh*thole country, and all factual evidence proves this. Trying to argue otherwise speaks more about what you need to learn than anything.

As I said to ProudModerare2 earlier in this thread, if you think Somalia is so great, go ahead and relocate there. Let us know what you think.

Let's hypothetically just give you this one. You win, you're right, we lose, we're wrong.

Somalia being a s___hole doesn't mean Somalians or Somalian-born people or Somalian-DNA people are inherently s___hole people. That's a whole seperate thing that you're trying to low-key imply, that you can't possibly prove with evidence.

I never said Somalian people were sh*thole people. Do yourself a favor and actually read what I said before making completely false assumptions.  

[fhtagn]

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

And dismissively describing it as a sh**thole is the best way to help the people who live there, of course.

Funny, no one here has seen you doing anything for the people who live there, or even acting like you care about the conditions their people are in. If you can't back up anything you've done for Somali people, you have no room to point any fingers at me for stating facts.

[Joe Republic]

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

And dismissively describing it as a sh**thole is the best way to help the people who live there, of course.

Funny, no one here has seen you doing anything for the people who live there, or even acting like you care about the conditions their people are in. If you can't back up anything you've done for Somali people, you have no room to point any fingers at me for stating facts.

Somalia?  No, you got me there.  But after Trump referred to Haiti specifically as a sh**thole, the next day I donated money to this, and I have the receipt to prove it.

Now, how 'bout you?

[Hammy]

I do find that Omar is totally ungrateful at this nation when the fact is people like her should be among the most grateful. They gave her refuge , opportunity, and freedom that she would never have gotten in Somalia yet all she does is attacks this nation.

This sort of logic is what helped push me out of the Republican Party a decade ago--this attitude that immigrants should show how grateful they are for their freedoms (in this case free speech) by not exercising them.

[JA]

We should have just let her ungrateful self rot in the Somali trash pit she crawled herself out of.

So in your (and trump's) eyes, Somali is a "sh*thole Country."
Nice. Stay classy.

Somalia is objectively a s**thole country.

An objective claim is a statement about a factual matter-one that can be proved true or false. For factual matters there exist widely recognized criteria and methods to determine whether a claim is true or false. A subjective claim, on the other hand, is not a factual matter; it is an expression of belief, opinion, or personal preference. A subjective claim cannot be proved right or wrong by any generally accepted criteria.

You'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

20 years of conflict
73% poverty rate
Food prices up 300%
60% of kids not enrolled in school
Average life expectancy is in the low 50s
1 in 7 Somali kids die before the age of 5

I think you need to take your own advice.

Those are objective facts, sure. But, they're being ascribed subjective value.

Again, you'd benefit from learning the difference between objective and subjective claims.

The point still stands that Somalia is objectively a sh*thole country, and all factual evidence proves this. Trying to argue otherwise speaks more about what you need to learn than anything.

The point still stands that you can't comprehend the distinction between objective and subjective statements. You can cite a hundred pages of statistical facts that show poor objective performance markers, yet that still wouldn't make Somalia an "objectively sh*thole country." Trying to argue otherwise speaks about what you need to learn of critical thinking skills.

As I said to ProudModerare2 earlier in this thread, if you think Somalia is so great, go ahead and relocate there. Let us know what you think.

There are more subjective evaluation options of a country available than "great" and "sh*thole." Such black and white thinking is unhealthy. And, refusing to conclude that a country is objectively a "sh*thole" doesn't mean that I have any desire whatsoever to live there; just as I don't have any desire to live in Japan or the UAE or Virginia.

[T'Chenka]

I do find that Omar is totally ungrateful at this nation when the fact is people like her should be among the most grateful. They gave her refuge , opportunity, and freedom that she would never have gotten in Somalia yet all she does is attacks this nation.


 

Omar is trying desperately to get people to care about fighting climate change, supports the rights of ALL Americans (LGBTQ and immigrants included)  and she fights against corporate lobbyist corruption of politicians and money influencing politics, including but DEFINITELY not only AIPAC pro-Israel lobbyists who bribe our legislators to support Israel unconditionally on every single issue every single time, even if Israel does something terrible. Lile I said, not just AIPAC / Israel, but also corporations, big pharma, big oil, Koch Brothers, and the list goes on.

Trumpanzees cheer on Trump destroying our democracy and turning America into a banana republic, but criticize Omar's love and passion for America and it's ACTUAL values (not "white conservative values"). The hypocrisy is staggering.