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« on: April 11, 2019, 01:15:26 pm »

Austria plans to force (social) media to identify users to prevent hate speech

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VIENNA (Reuters) - Austrias right-wing government plans to force large social and traditional media to verify their users identity so that individuals can be tracked down if they post hate speech online anonymously, it said on Wednesday.

The measure, part of a bill that has yet to be submitted to parliament, will apply only to larger platforms, defined as those with have more than 100,000 users or 500,000 euros ($560,000) in revenue in Austria, as well as traditional media receiving a certain amount in government subsidies.

Culture and media minister Gernot Bluemel said the bill, which he expects to come into force in September next year, was the first of its kind in the European Union. Other countries in the bloc, including Germany and France, have taken steps to rein in hate speech online.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-austria-socialmedia/austria-plans-to-force-social-media-to-identify-users-as-bar-to-hate-speech-idUSKCN1RM26R

Apparently, under VP/FP֑s plans you have to register with a online newspaper, social media site or forum with your passport, drivers license or phone number - but can still use an anonymous name to post.

If you post hate speech though and someone files a charge, the media platform would have to forward your real personal data to the police though ...
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2019, 01:25:59 pm »

RIP Tender.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2019, 01:37:25 pm »

RIP Tender.
Dont forget Omega21. I expect things wont be smooth for them.

Either way, whats FP֒s response to this? I would imagine theyd be the biggest loser here.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2019, 01:41:24 pm »

RIP Tender.
Dont forget Omega21. I expect things wont be smooth for them.

Either way, whats FP֒s response to this? I would imagine theyd be the biggest loser here.

Why would this be a problem for me ? I never use hate speech anyway, except for criminals (immigrants or not).

The FP supports it of course, because they commonly presented it yesterday in their cabinet council meeting.
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2019, 01:51:43 pm »

The 100.000 user requirement is also very odd, because most pro-FP hate sites are exempt from it, such as the site Unzensuriert.

Even Atlas Forum would be exempt, with 6.000 users ...
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2019, 01:53:40 pm »

So wait. Does that mean that just like talking to people, being employed, writing papers and even writing for a newspaper and generally participating in society like a normal person, I can no longer be anonymous on the web. Travesty!
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2019, 05:23:53 pm »

Can't the websites just avoid this by moving their servers to other countries?
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2019, 07:14:59 pm »
« Edited: April 11, 2019, 07:25:39 pm by Omega21 »

RIP Tender.
Dont forget Omega21. I expect things wont be smooth for them.

Either way, whats FP֒s response to this? I would imagine theyd be the biggest loser here.

My Man, I'm from Bosnia, you really think I'll make my accounts in Austria?

Plus, it seems that people are not aware of what a VPN or Proxy is, so I guess anyone dumb enough to not know what that is should have to provide their passport.


So wait. Does that mean that just like talking to people, being employed, writing papers and even writing for a newspaper and generally participating in society like a normal person, I can no longer be anonymous on the web. Travesty!

You show your passport when talking to people you just met?

Ok then, to each their own I guess lol.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2019, 07:16:36 pm »

I wonder how many sites start having exactly 100,000 users.
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2019, 08:55:47 pm »

...when dumb people write bad laws...
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2019, 09:11:55 pm »

I think I'm qualified to enforce this law. Tender, any advice on finding good living accommodations?
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2019, 02:06:24 am »

...when dumb people write bad laws...
Pretty accurate summary of the current Austrian government to be honest
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2019, 10:45:54 am »

...when dumb people write bad laws...
Pretty accurate summary of the current Austrian government to be honest
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2019, 11:16:12 am »
« Edited: April 13, 2019, 11:19:24 am by Tender Branson »

Can't the websites just avoid this by moving their servers to other countries?

Not sure, but I think if they do they would have to pay the 1 million penalty, which is a lot for newspapers such as the left-wing Standard, the centrist Kurier and Presse or the populist tabloids Krone, 24 or Heute. So much, that they would go bankrupt.

The new law would hit the Krone hardest and therefore the pro-FP trolls there ...
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