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« on: April 13, 2019, 05:01:07 PM »

in which the electorate preferred the Democratic nominee on national security and foreign policy?
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2019, 05:12:02 PM »

You could say in 2004,
John Kerry was preferred for that reason, but other issues, helped Bush win

Also in 2008, Obama won, because Bush was toxic, there was a Recession, and the Iraq War was unpopular, Martha Coakley could defeat Abraham Lincoln or Ike Eisenhower in those cicumstances, the word GOP or the letter R was toxic (just ask Gordon Smith, Jim Saxton, Marilyn Musgrave, Bill Sali, etc.)

Maybe 2012 would be a better argument, also in 1964, LBJ won, because he portrayed Goldwater as a radical, 1960 is a better argument
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2019, 01:49:57 AM »

1976.

Maybe not so much national security, but the nation was tired of Vietnam by that point, and Carter promising those pardons was quite critical.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2019, 05:55:44 PM »

You could say in 2004,
John Kerry was preferred for that reason, but other issues, helped Bush win

Also in 2008, Obama won, because Bush was toxic, there was a Recession, and the Iraq War was unpopular, Martha Coakley could defeat Abraham Lincoln or Ike Eisenhower in those cicumstances, the word GOP or the letter R was toxic (just ask Gordon Smith, Jim Saxton, Marilyn Musgrave, Bill Sali, etc.)

Maybe 2012 would be a better argument, also in 1964, LBJ won, because he portrayed Goldwater as a radical, 1960 is a better argument


Actually, Bush was preferred over Kerry on national security and foreign policy issues and he was seen as stronger on these issues due to Kerry's anti-war vote record in this post-9/11 era as Kerry opposed the Gulf War and flip-flopped on the Iraq War and as he opposed several weapon systems such as the B-1 Bomber, the B-2 Bomber, the F-14 A Tomcats, the F-14 Ds, the Apache Helicopter, the F-15 Eagles, the Patriot Missile, the Aegis Defense Cruiser, the Strategic Defense Initiative and the Trident Missile.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2019, 11:26:54 AM »

Don’t forget that McCain had the national security edge, and was trying to run on it instead of the economy. This became impossible once the stock market crash occurred.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2019, 05:25:27 PM »

Republicans had the edge on terrorism, but the Democrats had the edge on overall foreign policy in 2008.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2019, 06:02:31 PM »

Don’t forget that McCain had the national security edge, and was trying to run on it instead of the economy. This became impossible once the stock market crash occurred.
This. According to CNN, voters whose primary concern was terrorism voted McCain 86-13, but they made up just 7% of voters.
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