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SingingAnalyst
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« on: April 25, 2019, 09:59:59 AM »

Rather than start a whole bunch of new threads, I am including several mini-ideas in one thread. Feel free to discuss as you wish.

1. Lee Harvey Oswald survives
On Nov. 24, 1963, Oswald is seriously wounded by gunman Jack Ruby. What would we know that we don't know now?

2. Miranda v. Arizona goes the other way
On June 13, 1966, Justice Hugo Black joins Justices Clark, Harlan, Stewart, and White in rejecting Ernesto Miranda's appeal.
The phrase "Miranda rights" does not enter the language. In this ATL is the decision later overturned? Do the 1966 elections show such a strong swing to the right (and does the "law and order" issue still carry the day for the next quarter century)? Does the violent crime rate increase as much (1966-1974) as IRL?

3. Furman v. Georgia goes the other way
On June 29, 1972, the High Court upholds capital punishment in a 5-4 vote. There hadn't been a legal execution in the US since June 2, 1967. Would there ever be another one? Alternatively, would there be more than 3 in the subsequent 8-1/2 years as IRL? Effect on murder rate? (IRL murder rate increased 1972-74, declined 1974-76, increased 1976-80, then declined for next 5 years).

4. O.J. Simpson convicted of second-degree murder
On October 3, 1995, in a trial watched by 80% of Americans, the former football star was convicted of murder. Alan Dershowitz handles the appeal. Is the appeal successful? What is Simpson's sentence? Do the Kardashians still become famous?

5. Brock Turner is acquitted (or, alternatively, is sent to prison and severely beaten by his fellow inmates). Is his case still a cause celebre for the feminist Left? Does the band "Good English" get gigs again?

Knock yourselves out!

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2019, 06:44:18 PM »

Here are some of my thoughts:

Rather than start a whole bunch of new threads, I am including several mini-ideas in one thread. Feel free to discuss as you wish.

1. Lee Harvey Oswald survives
On Nov. 24, 1963, Oswald is seriously wounded by gunman Jack Ruby. What would we know that we don't know now?

I have no idea!

2. Miranda v. Arizona goes the other way
On June 13, 1966, Justice Hugo Black joins Justices Clark, Harlan, Stewart, and White in rejecting Ernesto Miranda's appeal.
The phrase "Miranda rights" does not enter the language. In this ATL is the decision later overturned? Do the 1966 elections show such a strong swing to the right (and does the "law and order" issue still carry the day for the next quarter century)? Does the violent crime rate increase as much (1966-1974) as IRL?

Yes to all of the above, but perhaps not as much as IRL

3. Furman v. Georgia goes the other way
On June 29, 1972, the High Court upholds capital punishment in a 5-4 vote. There hadn't been a legal execution in the US since June 2, 1967. Would there ever be another one? Alternatively, would there be more than 3 in the subsequent 8-1/2 years as IRL? Effect on murder rate? (IRL murder rate increased 1972-74, declined 1974-76, increased 1976-80, then declined for next 5 years).

More executions, perhaps one early in 1973.

4. O.J. Simpson convicted of second-degree murder
On October 3, 1995, in a trial watched by 80% of Americans, the former football star was convicted of murder. Alan Dershowitz handles the appeal. Is the appeal successful? What is Simpson's sentence? Do the Kardashians still become famous?

Again, no idea.

5. Brock Turner is acquitted (or, alternatively, is sent to prison and severely beaten by his fellow inmates). Is his case still a cause celebre for the feminist Left? Does the band "Good English" get gigs again?

Much of the anger the Turner case generated was due to his light sentence. It is likely had be been beaten in prison that his case would not be much of a cause celebre among feminists, but perhaps middle America would wake up to horrible prison conditions.

No idea about the band.


Knock yourselves out!


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