2004: Kerry/Hillary VS Bush/Cheney

[TheBeardedOne]

Would Kerry and Hillary win the election? Was Hillary ever considered for his VP? Which states would they win? Discuss with maps.

[Indy Texas]

Hillary on the ticket in 2004 would arguably have been "too soon" and she hadn't even been in the Senate very long at the time.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

No, it would have been Gephardt. However, Edwards wasnt as good of a Veep candidate, as he was a Prez candidate.

[Coldstream]

Hillary on the ticket in 2004 would arguably have been "too soon" and she hadn't even been in the Senate very long at the time.

I mean, she was in the Senate as long as Obama was when he was elected President in 2008, so I doubt people would have an issue with someone being elected Vice-President with the same experience level.

[BlueSwan]

VP's rarely matter and Edwards wasn't a terrible VP pick either.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

VP's rarely matter and Edwards wasn't a terrible VP pick either.

In the debate, Cheney tagged Edwards on foreign policy and he didnt have an extensive legislative agenda on foreign policy; whereas, Gephardt, wouldd have filled the gap

[Indy Texas]

Hillary on the ticket in 2004 would arguably have been "too soon" and she hadn't even been in the Senate very long at the time.

I mean, she was in the Senate as long as Obama was when he was elected President in 2008, so I doubt people would have an issue with someone being elected Vice-President with the same experience level.

People hold women to different standards, if her later political trajectory didn't make that clear enough.

[BlueSwan]

Hillary's time was 2008. I still think she would have been a more effective president than Obama at the time - she would certainly have taken advantage of the super majority. Also, Obama would have been a formidable VP for Hillary and 2016 candidate. Things could have been a lot different.

[dead0man]

Hillary on the ticket in 2004 would arguably have been "too soon" and she hadn't even been in the Senate very long at the time.

I mean, she was in the Senate as long as Obama was when he was elected President in 2008, so I doubt people would have an issue with someone being elected Vice-President with the same experience level.

People hold women to different standards, if her later political trajectory didn't make that clear enough.

yeah, the only difference between Obama and Hillay was that he had a penis

[Vespucci]

Wrong board

[One Term Floridian]

Hillary ends up losing the Rust Belt for the Dems 12 years in advance

[Progressive Pessimist]

Hillary's time was 2008. I still think she would have been a more effective president than Obama at the time - she would certainly have taken advantage of the super majority. Also, Obama would have been a formidable VP for Hillary and 2016 candidate. Things could have been a lot different.

This was probably how things should have been in an ideal world.

[Comrade Funk]

Hillary ends up losing the Rust Belt for the Dems 12 years in advance

If anything she helps in 2004.