2008 : Clinton/Rendell vs McCain/Lieberman (there's no recession)

[UWS]

How would it look like? What would be the electoral college map in such scenario?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Clinton/Rendell 286
McCain/Lieberman 252

[One Term Floridian]

Recession or not, the Republican base simply isn't going to accept Joe Lieberman as McCain's VP. Conservative turnout plummets and Clinton comfortably wins. With a recession, this would be complete blowout.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Recession or not, the Republican base simply isn't going to accept Joe Lieberman as McCain's VP. Conservative turnout plummets and Clinton comfortably wins. With a recession, this would be complete blowout.

The GOP base hates Hillary that much and also Hillary wouldn’t win TN even with the crash let alone without it and probably not KY either . With the crash the only southern states she wins are AR, WV, FL and VA while without the crash it’s probably only AR

[One Term Floridian]

Recession or not, the Republican base simply isn't going to accept Joe Lieberman as McCain's VP. Conservative turnout plummets and Clinton comfortably wins. With a recession, this would be complete blowout.

The GOP base hates Hillary that much and also Hillary wouldn’t win TN even with the crash let alone without it and probably not KY either . With the crash the only southern states she wins are AR, WV, FL and VA while without the crash it’s probably only AR

Voters in these states had not become integrated with the GOP base yet. Plus she was doing well in the polls in Clinton 92/96 southern states prior to the recession and McCain’s picking of Joe Lieberman in this timeline. Again I think even someone like Palin would be far more suitable for the GOP electorate at this point. Conservatives end up staying home and Hillary picks up PUMA Dems all over the South.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Recession or not, the Republican base simply isn't going to accept Joe Lieberman as McCain's VP. Conservative turnout plummets and Clinton comfortably wins. With a recession, this would be complete blowout.

The GOP base hates Hillary that much and also Hillary wouldn’t win TN even with the crash let alone without it and probably not KY either . With the crash the only southern states she wins are AR, WV, FL and VA while without the crash it’s probably only AR

Voters in these states had not become integrated with the GOP base yet. Plus she was doing well in the polls in Clinton 92/96 southern states prior to the recession and McCain’s picking of Joe Lieberman in this timeline. Again I think even someone like Palin would be far more suitable for the GOP electorate at this point. Conservatives end up staying home and Hillary picks up PUMA Dems all over the South.

Bill barely won KY and TN in 1996 , by 2008 a Dem would not have won those states

[One Term Floridian]

Recession or not, the Republican base simply isn't going to accept Joe Lieberman as McCain's VP. Conservative turnout plummets and Clinton comfortably wins. With a recession, this would be complete blowout.

The GOP base hates Hillary that much and also Hillary wouldn’t win TN even with the crash let alone without it and probably not KY either . With the crash the only southern states she wins are AR, WV, FL and VA while without the crash it’s probably only AR

Voters in these states had not become integrated with the GOP base yet. Plus she was doing well in the polls in Clinton 92/96 southern states prior to the recession and McCain’s picking of Joe Lieberman in this timeline. Again I think even someone like Palin would be far more suitable for the GOP electorate at this point. Conservatives end up staying home and Hillary picks up PUMA Dems all over the South.

Bill barely won KY and TN in 1996 , by 2008 a Dem would not have won those states

I agree TN would’ve been difficult but I think Hillary would’ve done solid in KY. KY Dems were dominant on the state level and actually had quite the resurgence during W’s presidency. Either way, McConnell might actually go down in the concurrent senate elections, which would otherwise go much better for th Republicans in this timeline.

[Sir Mohamed]

✓ Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Governor Ed Rendell (D-PA): 325 EVs.; 50.8%
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Senator Joe Lieberman (R-CT): 213 EVs.; 47.2%


Clinton wasn't going to win AR in 2008. CO and NV are tough calls, I'd give them to Clinton narrowly.


Foot note: The PA governorship would have gone to the GOP with Ed Rendell resigning to become VP. He had a Dem lt. gov. (Catherine Baker Knoll) who passed away days after the presidential election and the Senate pro tem was a GOPer.