State abortion laws megathread

[Person Man]

Do you think it counts if you confess your sins to your state legislator?

[Slander and/or Libel]

I guess we'll find out whether the SCOTUS will enforce Roe v. Wade or not.

Stare decisis, a cornerstone of Anglo-American jurisprudence, establishes that legislation cannot repudiate legal precedents. Such prevents legal anarchy.

Ask how much stare decisis has mattered to them in the last few years.

[Person Man]

Maybe someone can update this map? Yellow means that abortion will be illegal when Roe is overturned and Green means that it will still be legal is Roe is overturned. Grey means that there will be questions.

[Person Man]

There are much bigger issues at stake if various civil rights and liberties are waived are read out of the constitution. Will it cause changes in the economy? Migrations? There's just a lot of practical stuff here.

[ProudModerate2]

There are so many strange characters in states like Alabama and West Virginia.
What gives?

[Person Man]

There are so many strange characters in states like Alabama and West Virginia.
What gives?

I guess they have a rich spiritual inner life and feel its the role of the Government to fulfill it.

[Roronoa D. Law]

If Kavanaugh is the deciding vote to keep abortion legal, is it the greatest irony in American history?

Note: I'm assuming this question is moot since I don't see Roberts or Gorsuch overturning it either, but it's a fun hypothetical.

Yeah, there is no way they are going to overturn Roe v Wade. It will just end up like Ireland's ban where public opinion will shift in favor of abortion and it will just become legal again and then the issue will become politically irrelevant.

[Stranger in a strange land]

If Kavanaugh is the deciding vote to keep abortion legal, is it the greatest irony in American history?

Note: I'm assuming this question is moot since I don't see Roberts or Gorsuch overturning it either, but it's a fun hypothetical.

Yeah, there is no way they are going to overturn Roe v Wade. It will just end up like Ireland's ban where public opinion will shift in favor of abortion and it will just become legal again and then the issue will become politically irrelevant.

Also, if the GOP does actually succeed in overturning Roe v Wade, within 2-3 cycles it goes from being a good issue for them to being a horrible one, as very soon, the media will be full of stories about women dying in back-alley abortions, conservative states hanging women for having abortions, and women waking up in handcuffs after suffering miscarriages and being forced to carry non-viable, dangerous pregnancies to term.

[MasterJedi]

If Kavanaugh is the deciding vote to keep abortion legal, is it the greatest irony in American history?

Note: I'm assuming this question is moot since I don't see Roberts or Gorsuch overturning it either, but it's a fun hypothetical.

Yeah, there is no way they are going to overturn Roe v Wade. It will just end up like Ireland's ban where public opinion will shift in favor of abortion and it will just become legal again and then the issue will become politically irrelevant.

Also, if the GOP does actually succeed in overturning Roe v Wade, within 2-3 cycles it goes from being a good issue for them to being a horrible one, as very soon, the media will be full of stories about women dying in back-alley abortions, conservative states hanging women for having abortions, and women waking up in handcuffs after suffering miscarriages and being forced to carry non-viable, dangerous pregnancies to term.

They would consider all that a positive though.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I'm going to make a bold prediction and say that Kavanaugh and Roberts will strike down the ban, because this goes in clear violation of Roe and Casey and an outright ban is far less likely to pass SCOTUS than heavy restrictions.  Roberts doesn't want this hill to die on, and he knows the fallout that would ensue from letting this pass.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

If Kavanaugh is the deciding vote to keep abortion legal, is it the greatest irony in American history?

Note: I'm assuming this question is moot since I don't see Roberts or Gorsuch overturning it either, but it's a fun hypothetical.

Yeah, there is no way they are going to overturn Roe v Wade. It will just end up like Ireland's ban where public opinion will shift in favor of abortion and it will just become legal again and then the issue will become politically irrelevant.

Also, if the GOP does actually succeed in overturning Roe v Wade, within 2-3 cycles it goes from being a good issue for them to being a horrible one, as very soon, the media will be full of stories about women dying in back-alley abortions, conservative states hanging women for having abortions, and women waking up in handcuffs after suffering miscarriages and being forced to carry non-viable, dangerous pregnancies to term.

It's already a losing issue, but yeah, it would get even worse.

[Person Man]

If Kavanaugh is the deciding vote to keep abortion legal, is it the greatest irony in American history?

Note: I'm assuming this question is moot since I don't see Roberts or Gorsuch overturning it either, but it's a fun hypothetical.

Yeah, there is no way they are going to overturn Roe v Wade. It will just end up like Ireland's ban where public opinion will shift in favor of abortion and it will just become legal again and then the issue will become politically irrelevant.

Also, if the GOP does actually succeed in overturning Roe v Wade, within 2-3 cycles it goes from being a good issue for them to being a horrible one, as very soon, the media will be full of stories about women dying in back-alley abortions, conservative states hanging women for having abortions, and women waking up in handcuffs after suffering miscarriages and being forced to carry non-viable, dangerous pregnancies to term.

It's already a losing issue, but yeah, it would get even worse.

I could see it really taking a sh**t on this livability of the states that pass the personhood laws. Not just because people don't want their tax money going to kidnap, torture, and possibly killing them over them just trying to live their lives but also the collateral consequences of creating a state where a good segment of your population no longer wants to live in. Maybe some of them would stay if they got a 15-50% raise.. but not many and many of these states make their bread and butter off of being "Not Quite Mexico" or "Not Quite India".

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

This is a very sad day in Alabama.

Every day in Alabama is a sad day in Alabama.

[President Johnson]

Is there any chance this gets vetoed?

Hopefully the courts strike it down, because politicans shouldn't prohibit an abortion for raped women. Luckily for them, there are states like New York and California.

[GP270watch]

Is there any chance this gets vetoed?

Hopefully the courts strike it down, because politicans shouldn't prohibit an abortion for raped women. Luckily for them, there are states like New York and California.

 If you're a poor woman in Alabama, California might as well be Germany.

[LoneStarDem]

THANK GOD AL.

I'm 100% Pro-Life & anti-abortion!

[Esteemed Jimmy]

This is a very sad day in Alabama.

[The Dowager Mod]

When you manage to lose even this nutjob, you know it's a bad law. 
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1128712526642995201

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Have any of the pro life Republican bigwigs expressed an opinion on the bill?

[fluffypanther19]

that alabama bill is utterly insane

When you manage to lose even this nutjob, you know it's a bad law. 
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1128712526642995201

thats honestly an achievement

[S019]

Even as a Republican, I oppose the Alabama law, the GA and IA ones are fine, though

[Burke Bro]

It's official: the Alabama abortion bill was signed into law.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-governor-signs-bill/index.html

[OSR stands with Israel]

So would my position on the issue be considered pro-choice or pro-life:


I believe it should be legal in the first trimester, the second trimester should be decided by the states and third trimester should be banned federally

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Roll Tide! Bittersweet that Scalia isn't around to see the lives saved

[Person Man]

So would my position on the issue be considered pro-choice or pro-life:


I believe it should be legal in the first trimester, the second trimester should be decided by the states and third trimester should be banned federally

Pro-choice. That's pretty close to the median of what pro-choicers want. To compare, the median pro-lifer wants only permitted if the prosecutor signs off on it as a rape thing or there is an ICU admission involved whether or not it all happened last night.