State abortion laws megathread

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I can maybe understand some restrictions in the third trimester, but six weeks is absurd. The whole idea of an embryo having a heartbeat at six weeks is a lie too.

“These bills present the idea that there’s something that looks like what you or a person on the street would call a baby – a thing that’s almost ready to go for a walk,” said Dr Jen Gunter, a gynecologist in Canada and the US who runs an influential blog. “In reality, you’re talking about something that’s millimeters in size and doesn’t look anything like that.”

That early in a pregnancy, Gunter said, an embryo does not have a heart – at least, not what we understand a human heart to be, with pumping tubes and ventricles. At six weeks, a human embryo throbs, but those tissues have not yet formed an organ, so the pulsing should not be confused with a heartbeat.

“When throbbing of some tissue begins, it’s not a heart,” said Dr Sara Imershein, a gynecologist and obstetrician in Falls Church, Virginia. “Really, we call it an embryo until about nine weeks from last menstrual period,” or roughly three weeks after the new laws prohibit termination of pregnancy.

'It's not a little child': gynecologists join the fight against six-week abortion bans

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Should the act of sex itself be illegal because an innumerably large number of sperms inevitably die in the process; even if 1 or more (in the case of fraternal twins) of the sperms connects to an egg; the rest still die?

If the answer is yes, then almost every living animal on the planet is guilty of mass murder.
If the answer is no, then well its not much different from abortions and therefore, abortion should also be legal.

There’s a Monty Python bit about this.

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This is horrific and totally unconstitutional.  How are they even going to enforce this? Are doctors going to have to tell the police/state everyone that's pregnant? This is dystopian.

https://twitter.com/JessMKnoll/status/1125951331112325125

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This is horrific and totally unconstitutional.  How are they even going to enforce this? Are doctors going to have to tell the police/state everyone that's pregnant? This is dystopian.

https://twitter.com/JessMKnoll/status/1125951331112325125

Thank you Governor Kemp! This approach will do far more to reduce abortion than any standalone in-state law ever will.

Muh small government.

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This is horrific and totally unconstitutional.  How are they even going to enforce this? Are doctors going to have to tell the police/state everyone that's pregnant? This is dystopian.

https://twitter.com/JessMKnoll/status/1125951331112325125

Thank you Governor Kemp! This approach will do far more to reduce abortion than any standalone in-state law ever will.

Muh small government.

Criminal justice is one of the core responsibilities of any government, no matter how small or large.

Including the invasion of privacy of what a women chooses to do when they leave the state? That's dystopian and unconstitutional.

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The US is headed down this hill very fast. It's absolutely terrifying.

We can either run away (I have been talking to a lawyer and have the money) or we can stand and fight, even it means years in prison, potential death, and a lifetime of persecution.

Yeah, I'm hoping that the national organizations are willing to raise money to help get women out of these redneck states to places were they can get their health care.

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I really don't understand why a bunch of old white conservative men think they're in any position to interfere with a personal medical procedure between a woman and her doctor...

Muh fetus! Muh zygote!

[Gass3268]

Is there a list of known Right-to-Life and Right-to-Choose states?

Right to Life is where there are recent intentions to enact personhood, trigger laws, or heartbeat bills and Right to Choose is where there are either statutory, judicial, or constitutional protects or sanctuary counties where the local top prosecutor or LEO openly will not arrest or prosecute abortion recipients or providers.

This is why we need more laws like what was passed in New York.

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1138459660405616641

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https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1138236472006516739

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https://twitter.com/ReproRights/status/1139629010051313664

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https://twitter.com/DrLeanaWen/status/1141521323379843072

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The horde was beaten back in Wisconsin.

https://twitter.com/GovEvers/status/1142160992610258944

[Gass3268]

Here's what I would like to see happen.

1) Overturn Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey; there were not valid, accurate interpretations of the Constitution.

2) Every state hold a referendum for an amendment to the state constitution on the subject of whether the state is predominantly pro-life or predominantly pro-choice. I believe Nevada has already done this 29 years ago and they're pro-choice.

Who's with me?

No, part one is clearly wrong.

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https://twitter.com/RachelSB/status/1184293173838921728?s=20

[Gass3268]

Isnt this supposed to be in the megathread?

Good call, forgot about that, my apologizes.