S.19.2-9: Southern Infrastructure Act (Debating)
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Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)
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« on: May 08, 2019, 05:02:24 PM »

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Section 1: Title
This bill will be known as the Southern Infrastructure Act

Section 2: Creation of an Infrastructure Board
1: An organization that will hereby be known as the Southern Infrastructure Board.
2: This board will manage money allotted to them through the Chamber of Delegates with the Signature of the Governor to grant money to localities that are in need of new infrastructure.
I: The board determines the amount of money that goes to a locality based off of need.
II: If the board makes a determination in which the Chamber of Delegates disagrees, a decision can be overturned by a vote of 2/3’s.

Section 3: Funding
1: The Southern Government hereby gives the Southern Infrastructure Board $15 Billion dollars to grant to localities.
I: $10 Billion dollars of new spending will be given to the board as well as $5 Billion from the discretionary spending area.

Section 4: Oversight
1: The board will have direct oversight from the Chamber of Delegates.
2: The Chamber is allowed to assume duties of the board should it fail to operate effectively.
3: Localities once given the money for infrastructure projects will be overseen on a monthly basis by inspectors from the Southern Government to ensure the money is being properly used.

Section 5: Repeals
1: The Department of Infrastructure and Environment Act is hereby repealed.
2: The Southern Infrastructure Survey Act is hereby repealed.

Section 5: Implementation
This bill will take effect immediately upon being signed into law.
Sponsor: Governor Young Texan
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2019, 10:04:53 PM »

Has my full support
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2019, 10:17:10 PM »

I've said this before, but the 'other/discretionary' category is NOT just a random fund that you can draw from. Things like Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting, electric power, gas supply, solid waste management, sewerage, and parks and recreation are included in the 'other/discretionary' category. If you want to fund this, just take all 15 billion from the surplus.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2019, 10:21:50 PM »

I've said this before, but the 'other/discretionary' category is NOT just a random fund that you can draw from. Things like Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting, electric power, gas supply, solid waste management, sewerage, and parks and recreation are included in the 'other/discretionary' category. If you want to fund this, just take all 15 billion from the surplus.

We did add 30 billion dollars worth of funds to the account though, without specifying a source for them. $10 Billion of that was used for the Disaster Relief Fund, but the remaining $20 billion remains available.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2019, 10:28:41 PM »

I've said this before, but the 'other/discretionary' category is NOT just a random fund that you can draw from. Things like Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting, electric power, gas supply, solid waste management, sewerage, and parks and recreation are included in the 'other/discretionary' category. If you want to fund this, just take all 15 billion from the surplus.

We did add 30 billion dollars worth of funds to the account though, without specifying a source for them. $10 Billion of that was used for the Disaster Relief Fund, but the remaining $20 billion remains available.

Recall, however, that the CANDU reactor eats up 10 billion from discretionary per year. IRL, state-only funding in the 'other' categories is 31 billion.

So if 20 billion from discretionary is used for the reactor and the disaster relief, plus 5 for infrastructure, while 'Other' is only allocated 50 billion, that means something important will be underfunded.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2019, 10:34:54 PM »

I've said this before, but the 'other/discretionary' category is NOT just a random fund that you can draw from. Things like Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting, electric power, gas supply, solid waste management, sewerage, and parks and recreation are included in the 'other/discretionary' category. If you want to fund this, just take all 15 billion from the surplus.

We did add 30 billion dollars worth of funds to the account though, without specifying a source for them. $10 Billion of that was used for the Disaster Relief Fund, but the remaining $20 billion remains available.

Recall, however, that the CANDU reactor eats up 10 billion from discretionary per year. IRL, state-only funding in the 'other' categories is 31 billion.

So if 20 billion from discretionary is used for the reactor and the disaster relief, plus 5 for infrastructure, while 'Other' is only allocated 50 billion, that means something important will be underfunded.

Uh, when did the Southern Government authorize funds for a CANDU Reactor? Per Wikipedia, in RL, such reactors exist in:

Canada: 19 and 5 decommissioned.
South Korea: 4.
China: 2.
India: 2, 13 active CANDU-derivatives, and 3 CANDU-derivatives under construction.
Argentina: 1, and 1 planned.
Romania: 2, and 2 dormant part-constructed.
Pakistan: 1.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2019, 10:48:40 PM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=264941.msg5664202#msg5664202

Thumb costed that bill fwiw.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2019, 10:50:14 PM »

Wow the South is a joke sometimes.

But yeah, just take it all from the surplus then.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2019, 05:16:28 AM »

I proudly support this legislation.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2019, 10:06:03 PM »

Fellow delegates, as discussion on this has died down and there hasn't been any post for nearly 3 days I propose the this be put to a vote.

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Section 1: Title
This bill will be known as the Southern Infrastructure Act

Section 2: Creation of an Infrastructure Board
1: An organization that will hereby be known as the Southern Infrastructure Board.
2: This board will manage money allotted to them through the Chamber of Delegates with the Signature of the Governor to grant money to localities that are in need of new infrastructure.
I: The board determines the amount of money that goes to a locality based off of need.
II: If the board makes a determination in which the Chamber of Delegates disagrees, a decision can be overturned by a vote of 2/3’s.

Section 3: Funding
1: The Southern Government hereby gives the Southern Infrastructure Board $15 Billion dollars to grant to localities.
I: $15 Billion dollars of new spending will be given to the board.

Section 4: Oversight
1: The board will have direct oversight from the Chamber of Delegates.
2: The Chamber is allowed to assume duties of the board should it fail to operate effectively.
3: Localities once given the money for infrastructure projects will be overseen on a monthly basis by inspectors from the Southern Government to ensure the money is being properly used.

Section 5: Repeals
1: The Department of Infrastructure and Environment Act is hereby repealed.
2: The Southern Infrastructure Survey Act is hereby repealed.

Section 5: Implementation
This bill will take effect immediately upon being signed into law.
Sponsor: Governor Young Texan
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2019, 11:54:00 PM »

no objection.
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2019, 06:26:58 AM »

There being no objections, I will ring the bells (DM all delegates) to notify all delegates that a final is now in progress.

The bill being voted on is the following:
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Section 1: Title
This bill will be known as the Southern Infrastructure Act

Section 2: Creation of an Infrastructure Board
1: An organization that will hereby be known as the Southern Infrastructure Board.
2: This board will manage money allotted to them through the Chamber of Delegates with the Signature of the Governor to grant money to localities that are in need of new infrastructure.
I: The board determines the amount of money that goes to a locality based off of need.
II: If the board makes a determination in which the Chamber of Delegates disagrees, a decision can be overturned by a vote of 2/3’s.

Section 3: Funding
1: The Southern Government hereby gives the Southern Infrastructure Board $15 Billion dollars to grant to localities.
I: $15 Billion dollars of new spending will be given to the board.

Section 4: Oversight
1: The board will have direct oversight from the Chamber of Delegates.
2: The Chamber is allowed to assume duties of the board should it fail to operate effectively.
3: Localities once given the money for infrastructure projects will be overseen on a monthly basis by inspectors from the Southern Government to ensure the money is being properly used.

Section 5: Repeals
1: The Department of Infrastructure and Environment Act is hereby repealed.
2: The Southern Infrastructure Survey Act is hereby repealed.

Section 5: Implementation
This bill will take effect immediately upon being signed into law.

Voting Options are:
[   ] Aye
[   ] Nay
[   ] Abstain
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2019, 07:49:43 AM »

aye
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2019, 03:34:16 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2019, 06:52:19 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2019, 06:59:07 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2019, 01:02:38 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2019, 07:46:59 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2019, 05:48:08 AM »

6 ayes, 0 nays. this bill passes.
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2019, 07:25:44 AM »


Mr. Speaker I believe that technically the vote had another 28 minutes or so to go. But the bill passes regardless.
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