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Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)
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« on: May 12, 2019, 12:51:38 AM »
« edited: May 24, 2019, 03:45:25 AM by Southern Deputy Speaker Muaddib »

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Southern Nuclear Utilization Scheme Next-generation Update (SNUSNU)

Introductory Memorandum
As the Southern region already has the worlds biggest nuclear reactor. It is in the interest of all Southerners that programs that reduces the radioactive half life of waste be followed up on. As such this bill proposes to aid in the research of Next Generation Nuclear fuels. Namely Transuranium Elements (TRUs) as fuel, and the development of Resource-renewable Boiling Water Reactors (RBWRs) that enable the effective use of uranium resources. This will not only enable the existing waste to be used as power sources provide cheap power for all Southerners but further help combat climate change in a cost effective and environmentally responsible manner.

Section I
1.1 The southern region will fund research and development of next-generation nuclear reactors that use radioactive waste materials as fuel.
1.2 Funds for research can include but are not limited to:
     * Regional taxes on non renewable energy
     * Regional research grants
     * Regional levies or duties not otherwise earmarked for spending
1.3 Research may team up with other research programs in relation to this field. Provided the use of this technology is also available for use by the southern region.

Section II
2.1 The Southern region encourages the construction of next-generation nuclear power plants that use Transuranium Elements (TRUs) as fuel to combat Carbon Emissions.
2.2 The Southern region may build a state owned next-generation nuclear power plant at the discretion from a vote from Chamber of Delegates and assent of the Governor.

Section III
This shall come into effect upon the signing of this bill by the Governor.
Sponsor: Muaddib
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2019, 01:09:09 PM »

I support this on the grounds that nuclear energy is necessary as a transition from dirty fossil fuels to cleaner renewables.
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2019, 02:07:35 PM »

I really like nuclear energy and I believe research and construction of nuclear is a damn good way to advance the south forward.

I have my doubts about the severity of climate change but with that said this is a good idea.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2019, 02:56:43 AM »

I support this on the grounds that nuclear energy is necessary as a transition from dirty fossil fuels to cleaner renewables.

I'm glad to see that there are those on the left that are embracing this as a common sense stopgap till the renewables are actually cost effective without the need to tax alternatives out the wazoo.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2019, 03:32:48 PM »

I support this on the grounds that nuclear energy is necessary as a transition from dirty fossil fuels to cleaner renewables.

I'm glad to see that there are those on the left that are embracing this as a common sense stopgap till the renewables are actually cost effective without the need to tax alternatives out the wazoo.
I have misgivings about nuclear power due to the potential danger it can pose, but I believe that's a risk that has to be taken in order to reduce carbon emissions.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2019, 07:50:25 PM »

Good stuff, nuclear does have a bit of risk, I suppose, but if we're not stupid about it the risk is much smaller than the benefits. I guess I'll be the one to obligatorily mention that France uses mostly nuclear power and that's one of the things that functions best over there!

It looks like a good bill, I guess unless someone points out an error I think we should pass this.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2019, 04:49:43 AM »
« Edited: May 15, 2019, 11:01:44 AM by Representative fhtagn »

Good stuff, nuclear does have a bit of risk, I suppose, but if we're not stupid about it the risk is much smaller than the benefits. I guess I'll be the one to obligatorily mention that France uses mostly nuclear power and that's one of the things that functions best over there!

It looks like a good bill, I guess unless someone points out an error I think we should pass this.

Nuclear power is very safe, actually. Moreso than quite a few energy sources that we currently use in terms of deaths per trillion kilowatt hours.


Also worth noting that nuclear power is VERY heavily regulated and must meet very strict safety standards.  Plants here IRL are also unlikely to have catastrophic events take place because our buildings are meant to withstand a pressure detonation, so we aren't at risk of a Chernobyl-like incident taking place here.

In more recent times, you can also look at Fukushima, much of the problem with that event has more to do with prior safety concerns that made things worse, something we are less likely to worry about here.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2019, 03:26:28 AM »

I motion for a final Vote
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2019, 04:57:38 AM »

No objection.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2019, 05:23:46 AM »

No objection.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2019, 06:26:49 AM »

Good stuff, nuclear does have a bit of risk, I suppose, but if we're not stupid about it the risk is much smaller than the benefits. I guess I'll be the one to obligatorily mention that France uses mostly nuclear power and that's one of the things that functions best over there!

It looks like a good bill, I guess unless someone points out an error I think we should pass this.

Nuclear power is very safe, actually. Moreso than quite a few energy sources that we currently use in terms of deaths per trillion kilowatt hours.


Also worth noting that nuclear power is VERY heavily regulated and must meet very strict safety standards.  Plants here IRL are also unlikely to have catastrophic events take place because our buildings are meant to withstand a pressure detonation, so we aren't at risk of a Chernobyl-like incident taking place here.

In more recent times, you can also look at Fukushima, much of the problem with that event has more to do with prior safety concerns that made things worse, something we are less likely to worry about here.

As you mentioned, Fukishima, Chernobyle, and Three Mile Island, are examples of the danger of nuclear power, something like solar, wind, or hydroelectric, is more advisable
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2019, 06:33:03 AM »
« Edited: May 20, 2019, 06:49:18 AM by Southern Deputy Speaker Muaddib »

@SNJC you should stick to Lincolnite debate instead if sticking your nose in issues south of the Mason-Dixon line.
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2019, 07:14:21 AM »

Good stuff, nuclear does have a bit of risk, I suppose, but if we're not stupid about it the risk is much smaller than the benefits. I guess I'll be the one to obligatorily mention that France uses mostly nuclear power and that's one of the things that functions best over there!

It looks like a good bill, I guess unless someone points out an error I think we should pass this.

Nuclear power is very safe, actually. Moreso than quite a few energy sources that we currently use in terms of deaths per trillion kilowatt hours.


Also worth noting that nuclear power is VERY heavily regulated and must meet very strict safety standards.  Plants here IRL are also unlikely to have catastrophic events take place because our buildings are meant to withstand a pressure detonation, so we aren't at risk of a Chernobyl-like incident taking place here.

In more recent times, you can also look at Fukushima, much of the problem with that event has more to do with prior safety concerns that made things worse, something we are less likely to worry about here.

As you mentioned, Fukishima, Chernobyle, and Three Mile Island, are examples of the danger of nuclear power, something like solar, wind, or hydroelectric, is more advisable

And if you bothered actually reading what I said, those events are incredibly unlikely to occur where we are today because of very strict safety standards and how our buildings are made.

If you can't be bothered to read what I said before you reply, don't bother replying.
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2019, 07:16:54 AM »

Good stuff, nuclear does have a bit of risk, I suppose, but if we're not stupid about it the risk is much smaller than the benefits. I guess I'll be the one to obligatorily mention that France uses mostly nuclear power and that's one of the things that functions best over there!

It looks like a good bill, I guess unless someone points out an error I think we should pass this.

Nuclear power is very safe, actually. Moreso than quite a few energy sources that we currently use in terms of deaths per trillion kilowatt hours.


Also worth noting that nuclear power is VERY heavily regulated and must meet very strict safety standards.  Plants here IRL are also unlikely to have catastrophic events take place because our buildings are meant to withstand a pressure detonation, so we aren't at risk of a Chernobyl-like incident taking place here.

In more recent times, you can also look at Fukushima, much of the problem with that event has more to do with prior safety concerns that made things worse, something we are less likely to worry about here.

As you mentioned, Fukishima, Chernobyle, and Three Mile Island, are examples of the danger of nuclear power, something like solar, wind, or hydroelectric, is more advisable

And if you bothered actually reading what I said, those events are incredibly unlikely to occur where we are today because of very strict safety standards and how our buildings are made.

If you can't be bothered to read what I said before you reply, don't bother replying.

They can still happen, any risk is too much risk, especially since just one.of these can be very dangerous
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2019, 07:26:02 AM »

Good stuff, nuclear does have a bit of risk, I suppose, but if we're not stupid about it the risk is much smaller than the benefits. I guess I'll be the one to obligatorily mention that France uses mostly nuclear power and that's one of the things that functions best over there!

It looks like a good bill, I guess unless someone points out an error I think we should pass this.

Nuclear power is very safe, actually. Moreso than quite a few energy sources that we currently use in terms of deaths per trillion kilowatt hours.


Also worth noting that nuclear power is VERY heavily regulated and must meet very strict safety standards.  Plants here IRL are also unlikely to have catastrophic events take place because our buildings are meant to withstand a pressure detonation, so we aren't at risk of a Chernobyl-like incident taking place here.

In more recent times, you can also look at Fukushima, much of the problem with that event has more to do with prior safety concerns that made things worse, something we are less likely to worry about here.

As you mentioned, Fukishima, Chernobyle, and Three Mile Island, are examples of the danger of nuclear power, something like solar, wind, or hydroelectric, is more advisable

And if you bothered actually reading what I said, those events are incredibly unlikely to occur where we are today because of very strict safety standards and how our buildings are made.

If you can't be bothered to read what I said before you reply, don't bother replying.

They can still happen, any risk is too much risk, especially since just one.of these can be very dangerous

As you can clearly see on the chart, solar, wind, and hydroelectric have risks too.

Sit down, kid.
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2019, 07:26:49 AM »

They can still happen, any risk is too much risk, especially since just one.of these can be very dangerous

Just like the risk of cutting yourself with your watermelon knife! Obviously we should therefore ban all watermelon knives, as any risk is too much risk and just one of these incidents can be very dangerous.
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2019, 08:53:16 AM »

They can still happen, any risk is too much risk, especially since just one.of these can be very dangerous
Just like the risk of cutting yourself with your watermelon knife! Obviously we should therefore ban all watermelon knives, as any risk is too much risk and just one of these incidents can be very dangerous.
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Good stuff, nuclear does have a bit of risk, I suppose, but if we're not stupid about it the risk is much smaller than the benefits. I guess I'll be the one to obligatorily mention that France uses mostly nuclear power and that's one of the things that functions best over there!

It looks like a good bill, I guess unless someone points out an error I think we should pass this.

Nuclear power is very safe, actually. Moreso than quite a few energy sources that we currently use in terms of deaths per trillion kilowatt hours.


Also worth noting that nuclear power is VERY heavily regulated and must meet very strict safety standards.  Plants here IRL are also unlikely to have catastrophic events take place because our buildings are meant to withstand a pressure detonation, so we aren't at risk of a Chernobyl-like incident taking place here.

In more recent times, you can also look at Fukushima, much of the problem with that event has more to do with prior safety concerns that made things worse, something we are less likely to worry about here.

As you mentioned, Fukishima, Chernobyle, and Three Mile Island, are examples of the danger of nuclear power, something like solar, wind, or hydroelectric, is more advisable

And if you bothered actually reading what I said, those events are incredibly unlikely to occur where we are today because of very strict safety standards and how our buildings are made.

If you can't be bothered to read what I said before you reply, don't bother replying.


They can still happen, any risk is too much risk, especially since just one.of these can be very dangerous

As you can clearly see on the chart, solar, wind, and hydroelectric have risks too.

Sit down, kid.



I think I should just reiterate what I said earlier:
@SNJC you should stick to Lincolnite debate instead if sticking your nose in issues south of the Mason-Dixon line.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2019, 08:17:58 PM »

There being no objections from the delegates, voting is now open for S.19.2-10: SNUSNU.
Sound the bells (Delegates will be DM'd) voting will be open for 48 hours.
Text of the bill reads as follows:

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Southern Nuclear Utilization Scheme Next-generation Update (SNUSNU)

Introductory Memorandum
As the Southern region already has the worlds biggest nuclear reactor. It is in the interest of all Southerners that programs that reduces the radioactive half life of waste be followed up on. As such this bill proposes to aid in the research of Next Generation Nuclear fuels. Namely Transuranium Elements (TRUs) as fuel, and the development of Resource-renewable Boiling Water Reactors (RBWRs) that enable the effective use of uranium resources. This will not only enable the existing waste to be used as power sources provide cheap power for all Southerners but further help combat climate change in a cost effective and environmentally responsible manner.

Section I
1.1 The southern region will fund research and development of next-generation nuclear reactors that use radioactive waste materials as fuel.
1.2 Funds for research can include but are not limited to:
     * Regional taxes on non renewable energy
     * Regional research grants
     * Regional levies or duties not otherwise earmarked for spending
1.3 Research may team up with other research programs in relation to this field. Provided the use of this technology is also available for use by the southern region.

Section II
2.1 The Southern region encourages the construction of next-generation nuclear power plants that use Transuranium Elements (TRUs) as fuel to combat Carbon Emissions.
2.2 The Southern region may build a state owned next-generation nuclear power plant at the discretion form a vote from Chamber of Delegates and assent of the Governor.

Section III
This shall come into effect upon the signing of this bill by the Governor.

Voting options are
[   ] Aye
[   ] Nay
[   ] Abstain
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2019, 08:23:58 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2019, 08:33:49 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2019, 03:06:53 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2019, 07:33:26 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2019, 09:31:30 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2019, 10:53:43 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2019, 03:43:13 AM »

VOTING IS CLOSED

Final Vote on S.19.2-10
[ 6 ] Aye
[ 0 ] Nay
[ 1 ] Absent

The Chamber of Delegates has voted in favor of SNUSNU

The bill now awaits the Governors signature:
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Southern Nuclear Utilization Scheme Next-generation Update (SNUSNU)

Introductory Memorandum
As the Southern region already has the worlds biggest nuclear reactor. It is in the interest of all Southerners that programs that reduces the radioactive half life of waste be followed up on. As such this bill proposes to aid in the research of Next Generation Nuclear fuels. Namely Transuranium Elements (TRUs) as fuel, and the development of Resource-renewable Boiling Water Reactors (RBWRs) that enable the effective use of uranium resources. This will not only enable the existing waste to be used as power sources provide cheap power for all Southerners but further help combat climate change in a cost effective and environmentally responsible manner.

Section I
1.1 The southern region will fund research and development of next-generation nuclear reactors that use radioactive waste materials as fuel.
1.2 Funds for research can include but are not limited to:
     * Regional taxes on non renewable energy
     * Regional research grants
     * Regional levies or duties not otherwise earmarked for spending
1.3 Research may team up with other research programs in relation to this field. Provided the use of this technology is also available for use by the southern region.

Section II
2.1 The Southern region encourages the construction of next-generation nuclear power plants that use Transuranium Elements (TRUs) as fuel to combat Carbon Emissions.
2.2 The Southern region may build a state owned next-generation nuclear power plant at the discretion form a vote from Chamber of Delegates and assent of the Governor.

Section III
This shall come into effect upon the signing of this bill by the Governor.
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